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Did you know that Kaukauna port wine cheese balls have carmine in them, from insects? The sharp cheddar one doesn't.Walmart Grocery - Kaukauna Port Wine Spreadable Cheeseball 10 oz
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Did you know that Kaukauna port wine cheese balls have carmine in them, from insects? The sharp cheddar one doesn't.Walmart Grocery - Kaukauna Port Wine Spreadable Cheeseball 10 oz
No, I did not. I have not had the port wine cheese in years. I am very suspicious of eating anything that is red in food. Did you get the port wine cheese? Carmine is also used in yogurt, medicine, candy liked Good and Plenty, etc. I think red dye #10 is ok to use but not #40. I don't remember which one did not have the carmine. I also don't like to use anything with enzymes. Like natural flavor it could mean anything. It is not easy being vegetarian is it?
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No, I didn't get it yet. The Aldi one is a different brand, it's their own store brand, but they don't list the ingredients on their website, so I bet it has carmine in it too. I'm so glad I found out before I bought it. Thanks for telling me about Red 40, I didn't know about that. Is it always Carmine? Yes, it's not easy being vegetarian. I worry about natural flavors, but they are in everything!
Did you know that the FDA allows cinnamon to contain insects and poop? 
www.fda.gov
HIgh quality real cinnamon is less likely to contain such things.
www.eatingwell.com
CPG Sec 525.225
This Compliance Policy Guide describes criteria for direct reference seizure of whole cassia, or whole or ground cinnamon adulterated by insect filth, rodent filth, mammalian excreta, or mold. Charge of 21 U.S.C. 342(a)(3), in that it consists wholly or in part of a filthy substance.
HIgh quality real cinnamon is less likely to contain such things.
How to Tell If You’re Using “Real” Cinnamon
Learn the differences between true cinnamon (Ceylon) and cassia.
Every food has an allowable amount of insects and poop. Bugs and poop are unavoidable if you live on this planet 
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My (vegetarian/pescatarian) brother doesn't attempt to avoid things like carmine coloring, enzymes, flavorings, etc. But then he also eats seafood occasionally so he's not a strict vegetarian.
.My (vegetarian/pescatarian) brother doesn't attempt to avoid things like carmine coloring, enzymes, flavorings, etc. But then he also eats seafood occasionally so he's not a strict vegetarian.
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Ewww!
Ewww!
I definitely don't wanna eat insects or insect blood! I'm undecided about natural flavors because most brands seem to label chicken broth or chicken fat if it's in there. With enzymes, I thought they stopped using animal rennet?
Some companies stilll use rennet. There is a website that list the names of compnies that make rennet free cheese but I don't know how to post it here. It says cottage cheese, Kraft swiss cheese and Philadelphia cream cheese are some of the rennet free cheeses.
Also cochineal is another name for carmine. Red dye #40 does not contain carmine but it is not good for you.
I am getting too old for this.
Heehee. Just be grateful the FDA limits how much can be in there instead of it being a free-for-all like in some other countries!
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Thanks for telling me, I didn't know this. I will check all my snack foods and make sure it's not in there.
It isn't, especially if you try to avoid any trace of animal products in your food. That's why I know I can never become vegan, because I would become obsessed with reading every label. Not that I don't already do that. LOL. But some of the ingredients I don't know what they are, and if I was vegan, I would need to know everything.
So though I suspect I'm not even 100% vegetarian, due to hidden animal products in my food, I still feel good that by not eating meat, I've saved the lives of many smaller animals such as chickens and fish. As well as maybe some cows and pigs.
Well said!! It's almost impossible to be completely vegetarian or vegan as almost all vegetables contain bugs. Even automobiles and computers are made with animals products. Chocolate, coffee and peanut butter are also allowed to have a certain amount of insects.
When I found out about rennet I quit eating cheese for 30 years. That's right, 30 years without pizza. I will never put myself through that again. I will have my cheese from now on despite rennet or carmine. Yes, I am nuts!
If you get carried away, you end up like Jain monks, who wear a mask (even pre-COVID 
) and always carry a woolen broom to sweep in front of them so they don't accidentally inhale or step on any bugs. They even avoid eating root vegetables, as bugs may be harmed when they pull the roots up. But even Jain monks drink milk, as long as they can confirm the cow is treated well (I assume they keep their own cow at the monastery).
Reducing suffering is an admirable goal but I do think there are limits.
) and always carry a woolen broom to sweep in front of them so they don't accidentally inhale or step on any bugs. They even avoid eating root vegetables, as bugs may be harmed when they pull the roots up. But even Jain monks drink milk, as long as they can confirm the cow is treated well (I assume they keep their own cow at the monastery).Reducing suffering is an admirable goal but I do think there are limits.
If you can find it near you, try Amy's frozen roasted vegetable pizza. It's vegan. No cheese. You won't miss it. This is coming from a life long cheese lover. It really is that good.
I'll second that! It's good even if you aren't vegetarian. I find I like most Amy's products.
This may be getting off topic but if vegans are against using all animal products, do they not realize that animal products are in vehicles and computers and other things they may use every day?
You are.absolurely right. I have never heard of Jain monks but will have to read up on them. I won't kill bugs. When I found one in the house I would gently put them outside. I couldn't stand the thought of an animal going hungrey so I had to feed every animal that came into my yard. That's how I ended up with all of my cats.If you get carried away, you end up like Jain monks, who wear a mask (even pre-COVID
Reducing suffering is an admirable goal but I do think there are limits.
I am surprised anybody replied to my post. I thought everyone would think I am a ranting luntic.
I tried Linda McCartney's vegan pizza and it was good. I never tried Amy's pizza but I will if I can cook it in the micowave. Amy's products are always good. I am still going to eat real pizza. I deprived myself for 30 years and I will not go through that again.
I was vegan for 12 years and I knew about the animal products in cars and computers and I fed my cats meat but i still considered myself to be vegan. I don't. know the answer.This may be getting off topic but if vegans are against using all animal products, do they not realize that animal products are in vehicles and computers and other things they may use every day?
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I didn't know about computers and vehicles. What parts besides leather seats?
Everyone thinks I'm weird/crazy, but they just kinda accept it as part of my charm I guess.
I found this discussion about electronics:
Are most electronics vegan/vegetarian?
And one about cars:
The Complete Vegan Guide to Buying a Car
But as they point out, veganism is about reducing suffering as much as possible, and some things are impossible for the average person to change.
Steering wheels can be leather, particularly in higher level models of vehicles.
I guess kind of a case of "don't sweat the small stuff" and be proud of the changes we make that we can control, and do make a difference.
