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hissy

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Here's something to chew on:

Industry news
Raw meat guidance document

· The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has announced the availability of the draft guidance entitled Manufacture and Labeling of Raw Meat Foods for Companion and Captive Noncompanion Carnivores and Omnivores. This draft guidance document is intended to provide specific guidance on the manufacture and labeling of foods that contain raw meat, or other raw animal tissues, for consumption by dogs, cats, other companion or pet animals and captive noncompanion animal carnivores and omnivores.

The FDA does not believe that raw meat foods are consistent with the goal of protecting the public from significant health risks, particularly when such products are brought into the home and/or used to feed domestic pets. According to the FDA, for firms choosing to manufacture and market raw meat and raw animal tissue products, more specific guidance is warranted for how such products could be manufactured and labeled to protect pet owners and pets from risks involving food safety and nutritional deficiency.

Comments on the draft guidance must be submitted within 75 days of publication in the Federal Register (December 18, 2002) to ensure their consideration in preparation of the final document. Electronic comment submissions can be sent to www.fda.gov/dockets/ecomments. Comments should be identified with the full title of the draft guidance document and the docket number 02D-0468. For further information, contact William Burkholder, Center for Veterinary Medicine, E-mail: [email protected].



Pet Food Institute label study

· The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is in the process of considering a BSE-related precautionary label on all petfood sold at retail that would state “do not feed to cattle or other ruminantsâ€Â¾even though there is no BSE risk in the US currently. The proposed label on petfood is part of the agencyâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s examination of the overall BSE prevention efforts.

The Pet Food Institute (PFI) conducted a survey to determine what the consumer impact of such a statement would be. As the survey revealed, the impact could be very damaging to the petfood industry. The deadline for comments to the FDA on this issue is February 4, 2003. PFI encourages petfood manufacturers to make their position known to FDA before the deadline.

The survey results were obtained from a poll of pet owners who make buying decisions about petfood. They were not given any prior knowledge that the proposed label had anything to do with BSE prevention. The poll was designed to be representative of the US population and was conducted for PFI by Edge Research of Falls Church, Virginia, USA.

According to survey results, when consumers saw a label that said “do not feed to cattle or other ruminants†on petfood, a full 42% had a negative reaction to it. An additional 16% were not sure about it and 35% were neutral. When asked about the safety of the product, if it had that label, 56% would be very (38%) or somewhat (18%) concerned. When asked what the reaction would be if they knew the label was required by the FDA, the 56% that were concerned increased to 57%.

One of the most telling statistics found in the survey, was that if consumers saw the label on petfood, 17% would feed their pet something else like table scraps or homemade food. This possible 17% decline represents a US$2 billion reduction in petfood sales (17% of $12 billion in sales for 2001 = $2 billion). This could mean serious problems for the petfood industry, even though there is currently no BSE in the United States and the current rule already requires the labeling of salvage or distressed petfood.

PFI has made education about handling salvage and distressed petfood one of its top priorities. PFI still has plenty of Handling Salvage and Distressed Petfood brochures available for free to anyone who might need them. Contact Stephen Payne for your copies.

Stepping away from what this rule could do to petfood sales, PFIâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s survey also found that 19% of consumers would be very (10%) or somewhat (9%) concerned about the safety of beef and lamb products they buy for themselves. Almost one-fifth had safety concerns about things they would eat and BSE was never mentioned in the survey. PFI believes that these numbers would increase when consumers learned that the label was placed by FDA as a measure to prevent the spread of BSE, if it were ever found in the US.


For those of you scratching your heads and asking yourself what is BSE it is also known as Mad Cow Disease.
 

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Ali: By the 'standards' of pet foods, those are some of the top diets of your normal petsmart store bought foods. While I personally will not feed my animals anything by IAMS, SD, proplan etc. For some animals they are great, a lot of people consider them to be in the same range as Nutro, royal canine however.
I do agree that Felidea, Innova, Wysong etc are some of the best foods to buy IF you can afford it, and do include better ingredients than the for mentioned.

I don't know if you've bothered to read any of my post before, but I never encourage anyone to buy these products, I try to steer them away from it. I just state by what the statistics say, and pet owners can decide for themselves.

Originally posted by alicat613


No, it's not. Eukanuba, Science Diet, Pro Plan, Iams and others are all just a rip off.
 

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You said it's a good food. I disagree. Sorry if that upsets you but I have my own opinion. If you want to feed those ingredients you can do so cheaper. My biggest problem is that they are selling themselves as something they are not. There are quite a few better foods on the market for the same price, or less. *see disclaimer below
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Oh, Hissy I don't feed raw for those reasons. My cats eat Natural Balance which is a great price and a really great food. I'd like them to eat home food, but they won't yet so that works for us.
 

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With regards to Hissy's post, I'm glad that the FDA is finally taking an interest in what goes into pet food.

The thing that surprised me was the people's reaction to the warning about not feeding the food to cows or other ruminents. Don't people realize the VAST difference between a dog or cat's digestion process and a cow's? I probably have a better knowledge than most city-folk
because my father is an animal health and nutrition specialist for Farmland/Land O Lakes and works with farmers and ranchers on the formulas that best suit their cattle, pigs, sheep, buffalo, ostrich, elk, etc. He honestly is one of, if not the best, in the region. I've asked him numerous questions about BSE (mad cow), Hoof and Mouth, CWD (Chronic Wasting Disease, kind of like mad cow, only it's affecting elk and deer both wild and in ranches). Sadly, the media makes such a big deal about these diseases that it creates a panic, even though there have been NO cases of BSE or Hoof and Mouth in the US!

Anyway, my point is that it is really sad that people are so uneducated that any type of warning will turn them away, even if it has NOTHING to do with their pet. The other unfortunate thing is that the manufacturer's still have enough power to control what the FDA is able to regulate.
 

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I thought that was sort of "funny" (not so much haha but ironic and DUH!). I mean, a cat is (mainly) a carnivore and a cow is an herbivore. Why on earth would anyone feed pet food to a cow?


As to my prior statement regarding Eukanuba -

12.5 lbs of Eukanuba costs $20 regularly at Petco ($1.60/lb)
Main ingredients - "Chicken, Chicken Liver, Chicken By-Product Meal, Brewers Rice, Chicken By-Products, Fish Meal (source of fish oil), Corn Grits"

16.5 lbs of Natural Balance costs $23.99 at Petco ($1.45/lb)
Main ingredients - "Chicken, chicken meal, brown rice, duck, lamb meal, potatoes, chicken fat"

The ingredients of Natural Balance provide a more digestible and higher quality (no by-products) at a lower price.

Same with Science Diet (adult)
At $28.99 for 20 lbs ($1.449/lb) it's about the same price as Natural Balance but has less meat and less specific ingredient sources
"Poultry by-product meal, ground corn, brewers rice, animal fat"

ProPlans cheapest adult formula chicken and rice comes out to $1.87/lb! for "Poultry by-product meal, ground corn, brewers rice, animal fat"

Wysong is cheaper ($1.699/lb) than that!! And that's considered an ultra ultra premium food although the regular formula doesn't seem all that to me, but their Anergen formula comes to $0.83/lbfor "Lamb meal, ground brown rice, oat groats, rice gluten, ground flax seeds, dried yeast, soybean oil, taurine." (complete ingredient list)

Sorry so long, just trying to explain what my point is. I in no way want anyone to feel bad about feeding this or that, but don't just pick up a bag of food because the commercial sold you on it, or because it's expensive so it must be good. Not only do the more meat and digestible foods mean feeding less, many of them are significantly cheaper than other brands. All I'm saying is for people to read some labels, evaluate cost, and buy the best of what is available to them at an affordable cost. And best does not mean expensive. I feed Natural Balance but after doing this, I very well may switch to Wysong Anergen.
 

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Ali: I don't know why you insist upon putting words in my mouth. But I have never said I personally feel that Eukanuba is a good food. It is a top rated brand, by pet stores, vets, and pet owners alike.
I share the same feelings on these foods as you do, and have posted similar information several times.
Proper animal nutrition is obviously important to both of us, I don't want to be slumped in a pile of people proclaiming that Eukanuba is the best food, because I feel it isn't!

The mass majority are so ill informed about companion animal foods, and it makes me mad. All these pet food companies and the AAFCO could do a lot of things, but instead worry about what might infringe on sales. The article that hissy posted is nothing new, but at least it's starting to get some more light shining on it.
 

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Im still confused! But I apologize if you feel I am attacking you or misrepresenting you. I simply disagreed when you said it was a top line food, that's all. They sell it as if it is, and they certainly price it top of the line! but you can buy much better foods for much less. I have no argument with you nor have I ever!

I think I see the problem though, you were using that term as rated by others, not your own opinion, and I am disagreeing in that I feel it is believed to be, and sold as top line, but is not.

K?

 
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