Corona Virus Now Spreading

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BUT masks should never be used as a crutch or a substitute for physical distancing whenever feasible, or proper attention to hand hygiene.
This along with the shortage of PPE is why the CDC held off. The shortage for medical workers is why they are saying cloth masks and they are always including the caveat that the most important thing people can do is social distancing, handwashing and staying at home unless absolutely necessary. The cloth masks are only for those situations where people cannot always stay 6 feet apart. Ohio has started making places like supermarkets and pharmacies allow a limited number of people in the store at one time based on the square footage of the store. Everyone else has to wait outside in line six feet apart.
 

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I was reading some Corona story yesterday, sorry don’t recall which news website but the expert said that this coming week is critical and that individuals should not go to stores or pharmacies unless it was absolutely critical. I know locally our new cases are still climbing so a I am going to attempt to heed that advice. The only think I really need is deodorant but since I live alone, hey, I will just need to smell.

Instead of going out I am going to rearrange the pantry, figure out some meal plans and maybe make some frozen meals.
 

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The cases are still rising in Ohio but the rise seems to have slowed. The county with the highest death rate is Mahoning, that is Youngstown. That was the area devastated by the steel mills closing years ago. High poverty rate which means the health care isn't good, an elderly population and older people whose lungs had been torn up by working in the steel mills. There were also people who had moved there from West Virginia to work in the mills, many had been working in the coal mines so their lungs have had a double whammy.
 

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Pretty interesting account from a physician who survived the cytokine storm. Minus all the god references.

Edit: Oops forgot the link.
A survivor explains what COVID-19’s dreaded cytokine storm feels like
VERY disgusted with salon.com and ALL of the other platforms requiring account setup and/or paying for the privilege of reading. Ethical platforms open up their articles on COVID-19 to all. Personally, I will not patronize any platform that requires either of the above. Nor will I share. Too bad, because lives potentially could be saved if these vultures would let us all read. I understand everyone wants the money. So do I. No one is paying me anything. So no money is coming from me.
 

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I just wonder, now that the tigers have been tested for COVID 19 although they are recovering, how do those of us who care for feral cat colonies proceed? In my area there are 10 different colonies in a one mile radius due to that hoarding situation I mentioned in my post in the feral forums here. I know these cats eat the smorgasboard and visit the other colonies calling only one place their home base. Could I be carrying the virus and the cats are carrying it to another caretaker. It's hard to not pet the cats when they are tamed (but Mom is deathly allergic) and used to a year of pets and hugs to all of a sudden stop that. Not feasible for everyone (like in my case) to bring the ferals inside.
THEY cannot give the virus to us. Infected humans can give it to them. The cats whose stories I have read have all recovered or are all expected to recover. I would use logic and say not to touch the cats outdoors, thereby lessening their chances of receiving anything from us. They of course need food and water, like we all do; and I include the caregivers in my own pantheon of HEROES.
 

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Okay, I guess I should start wearing one. I didn't know because there is so much information flying around, it's hard to catch what is correct.
When all else fails, I go with using common sense. And common sense tells me that people inhale and exhale. When we exhale, we release what's inside us to the outside via air and via droplets. Since estimates are that the number testing positive is 11 or more times less than the actual number of people with the virus, that means there are a LOT of people walking around with the virus who are potential vectors (can carry and transmit virus) so it makes sense for us all to wear masks, since none of us knows if we have it or not, tested or not. The problem with testing is that we can test negative and go on about our business and get the virus, but since we've already been tested, we assume we don't have it from that point on.
 

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THEY cannot give the virus to us. Infected humans can give it to them. The cats whose stories I have read have all recovered or are all expected to recover. I would use logic and say not to touch the cats outdoors, thereby lessening their chances of receiving anything from us. They of course need food and water, like we all do; and I include the caregivers in my own pantheon of HEROES.
Well originally it was said they couldn't get COVID 19 from us and yet the tigers got it and they are cats. So it looks as though this virus is mutating every day and things are changing. Which is why I asked.

These cats are going to have to then work out their differences themselves as I'll just give them food and water and head back inside. So sad as it took me 2 years daily working with them to tame them but we have to do what we have to do.
 

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This along with the shortage of PPE is why the CDC held off. The shortage for medical workers is why they are saying cloth masks and they are always including the caveat that the most important thing people can do is social distancing, handwashing and staying at home unless absolutely necessary. The cloth masks are only for those situations where people cannot always stay 6 feet apart. Ohio has started making places like supermarkets and pharmacies allow a limited number of people in the store at one time based on the square footage of the store. Everyone else has to wait outside in line six feet apart.
Senator Brown is a pioneer, a champion, and you are lucky to have him, Ohio!
 

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I just wonder, now that the tigers have been tested for COVID 19 although they are recovering, how do those of us who care for feral cat colonies proceed? In my area there are 10 different colonies in a one mile radius due to that hoarding situation I mentioned in my post in the feral forums here. I know these cats eat the smorgasboard and visit the other colonies calling only one place their home base. Could I be carrying the virus and the cats are carrying it to another caretaker. It's hard to not pet the cats when they are tamed (but Mom is deathly allergic) and used to a year of pets and hugs to all of a sudden stop that. Not feasible for everyone (like in my case) to bring the ferals inside.
Many studies have been done with the first SARS coronavirus-1 of 2003 and this one, in China, EU, here, and so far, humans, you, the other caretaker(s) CANNOT contract the virus From Cats. We can give it to cats. Their biochemistry "appears" by current research, to change the genetics of SARS-CoV-2 to a feline specific enteric/respiratory coronavirus, which they can transmit amongst one another. Since 2003, they've been unable to prove a cat can transmit a coronavirus to any other species. Cat specific once we transmit to one in a community, group, home, shelter, colony, or clowder. If you've washed your hands thoroughly, avoided facial touching or communal surfaces, then handle food, touch A cat (not multiple), then sanitize, you are doing everything you can, within your ability, to limit transmission. This is how spread in health facilities, veterinary facilities, labs, and shelters is mitigated and prevented as much as possible. Just to reassure you, if you absolutely need to go check on your charges.
 

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I had only been going out once a week already, to buy groceries, but today I went and bought enough food for myself for three weeks (the cats are set up for at least a month, lol). I hate grocery shopping in the best of times, and tend to eat out or get takeout a lot, so I have had more home cooked meals in the past three weeks than I had in the past six months. It was a big shift for me to get more shelf stable items.

I went to our local Target and was very impressed with what I saw - lots of employees keeping shelves stocked (most with masks) and it looked like the majority of shoppers were working either for Shipt or Instacart. About half wearing masks.

Now I don't have to leave the house, except to get some fresh air and exercise. I am fortunate to live in a walkable neighborhood.
 

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I had only been going out once a week already, to buy groceries, but today I went and bought enough food for myself for three weeks (the cats are set up for at least a month, lol). I hate grocery shopping in the best of times, and tend to eat out or get takeout a lot, so I have had more home cooked meals in the past three weeks than I had in the past six months. It was a big shift for me to get more shelf stable items.

I went to our local Target and was very impressed with what I saw - lots of employees keeping shelves stocked (most with masks) and it looked like the majority of shoppers were working either for Shipt or Instacart. About half wearing masks.

Now I don't have to leave the house, except to get some fresh air and exercise. I am fortunate to live in a walkable neighborhood.
Good on ya, Twylasmom Twylasmom and I have a similar situation here as far as it being a nice neighborhood. They're asking people to shop bi-weekly if possible, which we're pretty much doing. I used to shop only once a month, but my roomie shops very frequently in "the old normal" so twice a month is a compromise for her and good for me.
Hoping everyone gets the message and wears a mask!
 

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I just got back from groceries. I'm hoping I'm good for at least 2 weeks. Cream and milk are the things we go thru quite quickly....
BUT....we have TOILET PAPER!!!! I didn't get any because I don't need it but...yay! Still no disinfecting wipes or sprays...
 

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I had only been going out once a week already, to buy groceries, but today I went and bought enough food for myself for three weeks (the cats are set up for at least a month, lol). I hate grocery shopping in the best of times, and tend to eat out or get takeout a lot, so I have had more home cooked meals in the past three weeks than I had in the past six months. It was a big shift for me to get more shelf stable items.

I went to our local Target and was very impressed with what I saw - lots of employees keeping shelves stocked (most with masks) and it looked like the majority of shoppers were working either for Shipt or Instacart. About half wearing masks.

Now I don't have to leave the house, except to get some fresh air and exercise. I am fortunate to live in a walkable neighborhood.
I have never been a person that liked to go out. I was a very strange teenager and young adult in that way. Of course I grew up an only child so I have always learned to amuse myself by reading or writing short stories. If there was an option back in the 70s to work from home I would have jumped right on it. For the past 8 years I've been ore or less Stay At Home except for the 4 hours a week grocery shopping and Mom's hair. I also do not like eating out or buying food from restaurants. I prefer home cooked all the way. I have a walkable yard. 1/4 acre with hills so I put on my walking shoes and walk around the yard (Treasure chasing me as usual of course or stopping in front of me rolling around on his back)
 

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I just got back from groceries. I'm hoping I'm good for at least 2 weeks. Cream and milk are the things we go thru quite quickly....
BUT....we have TOILET PAPER!!!! I didn't get any because I don't need it but...yay! Still no disinfecting wipes or sprays...
You can always take tissues and spray liberally with isopropyl alcohol, then rub on whatever you want -- hands, surfaces, whatever. We do this in the car after grocery store.
 

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I was reading some Corona story yesterday, sorry don’t recall which news website but the expert said that this coming week is critical and that individuals should not go to stores or pharmacies unless it was absolutely critical. I know locally our new cases are still climbing so a I am going to attempt to heed that advice. The only think I really need is deodorant but since I live alone, hey, I will just need to smell.

Instead of going out I am going to rearrange the pantry, figure out some meal plans and maybe make some frozen meals.
If you happen to have coconut oil, baking soda and cornstarch you can make a simple deodorant at home. If you don’t have these ingredients, you can still find some recipes in the Internet that use something else that maybe you have?
 

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If you happen to have coconut oil, baking soda and cornstarch you can make a simple deodorant at home. If you don’t have these ingredients, you can still find some recipes in the Internet that use something else that maybe you have?
Thanks! I have two of the three but I dug around and found a travel size deodorant in with my travel stuff that should get me through until next week when I will go shopping. Running out of every day things I don't think about much is definitely one of the irritating things about this stay at home.
 

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Thanks! I have two of the three but I dug around and found a travel size deodorant in with my travel stuff that should get me through until next week when I will go shopping. Running out of every day things I don't think about much is definitely one of the irritating things about this stay at home.
It bugs us all. While we have extra time at home, it's a good time to plan and write down all the stuff we need to keep supply on.
 
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