I am sorry to hear about your mom, I hope she is OK. How is Snowy doing?
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Cat is vomiting. Please help
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I hope your mom is ok
… spinal injuries are awful, I am still recovering from one from last year. How is Snowy, any better?- Thread Starter Thread Starter
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She had to take bed rest for few weeks.
Snowy is peeing normally now. Eating and drinking good.
You know what? If he is doing all that, then I'd let your worries go about the red vomit. Sometimes things happen with our beloved cats that we just can't entirely explain.
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Doctor said it is not a major injury but should take complete bed rest for few weeks.I hope your mom is ok
I pray you heal soon too.
Snowy is eating drinking and peeing normal. But his temperature is always at 100.2 to 100.5
That close to enough to normal, and Snowy may run that way all the time. Remember what I said, my husband and I both run over a degree below the human norm, always have.
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I have Hashimotos and my regular body temperature runs lower too.
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Snowy vomited red liquid again 5 days ago. Took him to the hospital. Vet suggested me to get him an ultrasound as the problem has repeated again. Ultrasound is available only in govt veterinary hospital. They did some x rays to see if there's any obstruction. I contacted some online vets meanwhile. One of the vets told me to take kft and lft. His serum creatinine vets are high (2.29). The govt hospital vets said it's not a problem.. It's only dehydration. I wasn't convinced. They gave him iv fluids. I contacted another online vet yesterday. She said it is an inflammation and he will recover only when his kidney values become normal. She said it is either kidney failure or toxins related issue. The only treatments are iv fluids or dialysis. I will take him to the hospital for iv fluids daily now. I didn't deworm mu cats for 2 years now. I asked her if that's the reason. She said may be it's both dry food and no deworming.
She told me to give him renal food. And supplement to heal his kidneys.
The govt hospital vets when giving him iv fluids injured his legs. The become so red. I will take him to another vet today. Please check these images. His legs become red at iv fluids site. The online vet told me to give him hot water fomentation in legs and to fix an venflon.
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I wish I understood more about vet practices in your country, but I don't.
I can see how toxins might be to blame, but I don't know how deworming would be a culprit - at least not kidney impacting. That seems it would be more liver related, and his liver values are fine. Dry food might only be an issue if it was bad/tainted - and, that doesn't seem that it would be the case because your other cats eat it too, yes? I also don't understand the value ranges or reading of the serum creatinine - they are not anywhere close to how creatinine is measured in the blood here. Dehydration can impact creatinine, but Snowy's BUN looks fine and that is usually impacted as well.
I also don't understand how giving IV fluids could cause such a spot on his leg. It almost seems as if that might have more to do with something they did while shaving/prepping him for the IV. It is like the skin is raw, and that isn't something that should happen with just giving IV fluids. Perhaps they used something on his skin that he is allergic too. (I also don't know I am looking at in picture #5.)
Although I don't know anything about that food or the supplement, I suspect they won't be harmful to him.
Continue to keep us posted please.
I can see how toxins might be to blame, but I don't know how deworming would be a culprit - at least not kidney impacting. That seems it would be more liver related, and his liver values are fine. Dry food might only be an issue if it was bad/tainted - and, that doesn't seem that it would be the case because your other cats eat it too, yes? I also don't understand the value ranges or reading of the serum creatinine - they are not anywhere close to how creatinine is measured in the blood here. Dehydration can impact creatinine, but Snowy's BUN looks fine and that is usually impacted as well.
I also don't understand how giving IV fluids could cause such a spot on his leg. It almost seems as if that might have more to do with something they did while shaving/prepping him for the IV. It is like the skin is raw, and that isn't something that should happen with just giving IV fluids. Perhaps they used something on his skin that he is allergic too. (I also don't know I am looking at in picture #5.)
Although I don't know anything about that food or the supplement, I suspect they won't be harmful to him.
Continue to keep us posted please.
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Veterinary treatment is not good in my country.
The food is renal diet. Farmina is a European brand. Except for hills, royal canin and farmina no other renal diet is available in my country.
You think the blood reports are not right?
Yes, all my other cats eat the same food.
His legs became swollen and red after taking blood sample in one leg and after giving iv fluids for another leg. It is not shaving. The govt hospital vets did this mess.
The US range is 0.6 - 2.4, so 2.29 would be on the high end of normal. I don't know how the range is just to 1.5. I can't say it is not right, but I don't understand the range only going to 1.5.
I guess I wouldn't be going back to the govt hospital due to his leg. I don't understand how that even happened. Do you have to go there?
Farmina is a brand here too, and as far as I know it should be fine.
I guess I wouldn't be going back to the govt hospital due to his leg. I don't understand how that even happened. Do you have to go there?
Farmina is a brand here too, and as far as I know it should be fine.
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So 2.29 is not that dangerous?
I am not going to that hospital again. I will take him to another clinic. But his limbs are bruised and swollen. They can't give him iv. Subcutaneous work?
They did cbc day before yesterday.
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2.29 would not be considered dangerous according to the creatinine range I am familiar with.
Yes, subcutaneous would be an option. It isn't supposed to be as effective as IV, as you can't put as much in a cat's system subcutaneously at one time. If there was a vet you trusted who knew how to administer IV through the jugular vein that would be an option. Otherwise, subcutaneous would be the way to go. If he gets them everyday, sub-cutaneous may be fine. I used to give my cat 100ml subcutaneously everyday.
I just wonder if they didn't get the IV into the vein properly and were administering fluids under the skin in his leg. I know that would cause swelling, but I am not sure about the redness.
Yes, subcutaneous would be an option. It isn't supposed to be as effective as IV, as you can't put as much in a cat's system subcutaneously at one time. If there was a vet you trusted who knew how to administer IV through the jugular vein that would be an option. Otherwise, subcutaneous would be the way to go. If he gets them everyday, sub-cutaneous may be fine. I used to give my cat 100ml subcutaneously everyday.
I just wonder if they didn't get the IV into the vein properly and were administering fluids under the skin in his leg. I know that would cause swelling, but I am not sure about the redness.
I can't even understand what is on that paper related to a CBC.
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While giving iv the staff didn't hold his legs properly. I was holding his front legs. He moved his legs and thethe iv needle came out. There was some blood.
The needle coming out can happen, although it shouldn't, and blood would come out a bit afterward. Even with a normal IV, there can be bruising. Inserting a needle can cause that on anyone. So, maybe all the redness has to do with him moving his leg.
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I am not used to seeing them in percentages. But, if I had to guess from what I know the neutrophils and lymphocytes are high. Which would indicate an infection. Haemoglobin is fine. That is assuming my translation from percentages is accurate.
EDIT: I may be wrong, and none of them are actually high, after looking at them a bit more.
EDIT: I may be wrong, and none of them are actually high, after looking at them a bit more.
I just rechecked - none of the numbers are high.
EDIT: But hemoglobin is low. (red blood cell count)
EDIT: But hemoglobin is low. (red blood cell count)
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I think he is anemic from the hemoglobin reading. What did they say about the CBC? I’m not used to reading things in percentages either so I may be wrong here. But I would like to know what they said. Did they do a pcv?
That could explain why he had the bruising from the IV… it does look like they shaved him there and there’s some type of abrasion too, but anemia would explain it. I’ve seen that before on my cats who were anemic.
As for the Kidney range, the DVM is correct. I already know this from my cats who had kidney disease anything from 1.6 to 2.5 or so is considered high normal and they are already at stage two kidney disease.
One of my cats went into total kidney failure. I don’t remember what her numbers were then but creatinine and bun were much higher. But two others were diagnosed with creatinine of that level. The creatinine can vary according to if they are dehydrated, and if they ate a lot protein.
The creatinine of his range is considered early to moderate kidney disease already. Whether it’s actually chronic kidney disease or it’s happening from whatever is going on with him I don’t know. The anemia could be from the kidney disease or it could be something else like he has a parasite or viral/ bacterial, etc.
I think those foods would be fine. I’ve never tried them, but I have heard of that brand…the canned one… dry food could lead to kidney disease, but I’m not sure if it would cause an acute situation like this. I’m not sure if that’s what they meant?
I think the main thing here is figure out whether he is anemic or not and what’s causing it, and how to treat it. So if they didn’t say anything about that, I would ask them and also ask them why they think he got all of that redness etc. from having the IV.
If he is having some sort of injury to his kidneys from whatever is going on with him, it would be better if he could have IV fluids versus subcutaneous.
So I think those are the two things to be most worried about, the anemia, and the kidney issues. And of course figuring out the cause if all of this.
Here is a link on the creatinine levels.
IRIS Staging of Chronic Kidney Disease: Preserve Pets' Quality of Life
Chronic kidney disease is a major cause of morbidity and mortality in dogs and cats. IRIS staging helps veterinarians classify and treat this disease.
www.thevetiverse.com
