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The food and liquids he had are not red in color.
And yes the food he vomited is not red. He vomited it after an hour eating it. Before eating food he vomited red liquid.
Is the second picture his stool? Does it look like the color of his food, or do you think it is red-tinged too?
It is difficult to say whether it is red tinged or not.
 

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The food and liquids he had are not red in color.
And yes the food he vomited is not red. He vomited it after an hour eating it. Before eating food he vomited red liquid.

It is difficult to say whether it is red tinged or not.
I would call the dvm and get in asap. That food looks more like bile to me but there could be some blood too. We can't tell online what is going on so best to consult the er dvm if there is one.
 
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I would call the dvm and get in asap. That food looks more like bile to me but there could be some blood too. We can't tell online what is going on so best to consult the er dvm if there is one.
Second pic is stool.
 
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Either way, there is no way we can diagnose your cat online, so best to consult the dvm. 🤗
I did. He gave him antibiotic shots. I just want to discuss and take opinions from you guys. I can ask the vet to look into it.
 

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I did. He gave him antibiotic shots. I just want to discuss and take opinions from you guys.
Did the dvm comment on whether there is blood? That is really something they need to figure out because it could be something worse if so. That is why I am recommending to go back to dvm if they have not figured it out. If a cat is vomiting a lot, I mean repeatedly in one day etc., the stress from vomiting itself can cause a small amount of bleeding which can show up in the vomit.

I can give my opinion but that is based on photos online which is not trustworthy or as accurate etc. and I am not a dvm. Not that they don't make plenty of mistakes and misdiagnoses etc. Unless there is a lot of obvious blood in the stool or vomit etc. we can't tell for sure.

Red blood is usually fresh bleeding, dark blood in stool etc is a sign of bleeding also, lower down usually as I recall... but it can be upper bleeding too if melena.
 
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Between your two cats and the timing of each one coming up with vomiting issues, there must be a connection. Although, right now your female is OK, other than being scared acting and shedding hair?? Is she having a fever again? She has not vomited again, correct?

There sure seems to be more than a bacterial infection going on as the ER vet thought with your male cat. If no blood work was done, how did the vet arrive at the conclusion of a bacterial infection?

I only know to tell you to take at least your male cat back to the vet (your regular one, I guess), and explain all that has transpired with both of them. If you have any samples of the red vomit, the regurgitated food, and the stool, bag them, refrigerate them and take them to the vet too.
 

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red blood after vompting usually means something in the esophagus or mouth. Stomach blood looks more like coffee grounds. It does take at least a few days, two or three, for an antibiotic to start working. So give that a chance. The vet does need to be notified about the vomit and diarrhea again.
 
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Vet took a blood sample and gave him two shots for vomiting control and bleeding control in the morning.
Metoclopramide 2.5 mg for vomiting
Tranexamic acid 50 mg for bleeding control
And a syrup ( buclizine HCl)for appetite.

The blood reports came in the evening. Attached the report here. Please take a look. He said there might be an infection in the stomach and blood vomit might be because of the bacteria. Vet gave him an antibiotic and B complex.
cefquinome 150 mg (antibiotic)

It is morning now.. Snowy is still not eating anything. He is hungry when I am feeding the other cats he is also coming to eat. Tried to eat some food but didn't eat. I had to feed him by hand little bit of scrambled eggs. Vet told me to give him buttermilk.
I don't understand why is he not eating though he is hungry. He is trying to chew but dropping it. What can be the reason?
 

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I don't know. Some cats will appear as if they are hungry when they are nauseous, just like human babies do sometimes. I don't know if he is dropping food because it doesn't really taste good to him once he tries to eat it, or if there is something else going on. Dropping food would seem to look like the cause is dental or oral in nature. Stomach issues can also make a cat feel hungry even if they aren't really.

It is odd that his WBC (white blood cell count) is normal, as that is usually the most common sign of an infection. He has a high RBC (red blood cell count), which is pretty rare in cats, and I would have to look up more to determine what the causes might be.

The vet suggesting to give him buttermilk sounds like it might be for coating/soothing his stomach, but it isn't something that would be done here in the US, so I am not sure.

Keep feeding him whatever you can so that he does get something to eat.
 
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I don't know. Some cats will appear as if they are hungry when they are nauseous, just like human babies do sometimes. I don't know if he is dropping food because it doesn't really taste good to him once he tries to eat it, or if there is something else going on. Dropping food would seem to look like the cause is dental or oral in nature. Stomach issues can also make a cat feel hungry even if they aren't really.

It is odd that his WBC (white blood cell count) is normal, as that is usually the most common sign of an infection. He has a high RBC (red blood cell count), which is pretty rare in cats, and I would have to look up more to determine what the causes might be.

The vet suggesting to give him buttermilk sounds like it might be for coating/soothing his stomach, but it isn't something that would be done here in the US, so I am not sure.

Keep feeding him whatever you can so that he does get something to eat.
What does it mean if Rbc is high
 
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I guess you logged off. For food, try watering down some wet food and see if he can eat it that way.

Keep us posted.
He didn't mention about dehydrarion. He only told me to give him buttermilk
His lym and lym% is high gran and gran% is low. What does it mean? He is not able to fight the infection?
I don't know what to do. I am very scared
 

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He didn't mention about dehydrarion. He only told me to give him buttermilk
His lym and lym% is high gran and gran% is low. What does it mean? He is not able to fight the infection?
I don't know what to do. I am very scared
The high RBC HCT, etc., could be dehydration. The high lymphocyte and low granulocyte could be a lot of different things. It could be an infection or immune response like your Dvm thinks. When I googled it, it said leukemia as a possibility too, so I would ask about that. Overall, though his symptoms don’t seem to be similar to feline leukemia.

Low mchc with high hct hbg could be anemia or iron deficiency. Also, both low and high white blood count could be a sign of cancer. So it’s not always that easy to figure out you have to look for other clues in the other blood count levels and other symptoms along with what is going on in the blood chemistry as well.

High lymphocytes is often a sign that they are having an immune response either to a bacterial or a viral infection or some type of allergic response but it can be a sign of other things too such as cancers and other conditions. I also saw mentioned that it could be from inflammatory bowel disease.


It’s not always the same with each response. For instance, a high white blood count, lymphocyte, etc. depending on which type of white blood cells are involved in different things can happen at first and it’s not always the same with each response. So it can be high and then go low, or sometimes it can be low when you are fighting it off too. So it’s not always clear and it can be confusing to figure it out.

Sometimes when you fight off a virus or I think a bacterial infection as well, you could have high lymphocytes while you were fighting it off and then they can go low later because they are depleted. For instance, that is very common when you have flu. It takes such a high level, you can have a low count for three months afterwards and feel tired.

And it’s different for each virus and the white blood cells that are affected can be different. I was told that my neutrophil count, either being high or low, I have forgotten which it was now, after Covid was a sign that I had Covid.

I don’t know if this vomiting and diarrhea is something that came on suddenly… I think it is. But it could be that he’s got IBD or something like that too. Or maybe pancreatitis etc. but that would probably show in other blood work that was done. Did they do a chemistry panel? Does he have a fever?

How is he doing now? Any better? I have never heard of buttermilk being used before. But I guess it’s worth a shot to coat his stomach. If he is dehydrated, some subcutaneous fluids might help. I would try feeding him wet food and more water. I hope he starts eating soon.

Does DVM still think it’s an infection? If it’s a virus or even felv, maybe they can give him medication to help his immune response.

My Wizard had IBD- I remember once he had a lot of vomiting in a few hours and some blood. I brought him in early in the morning as an emergency and by that point he was OK. I don’t remember what they did, but they gave him some medication. And they wanted to give him a shot of cerenia, but I was still very worried about giving shots to my cats after one of my cats died after they got convenia. He had stopped vomiting, so I opted not to do that. Years later, though I did the cerenia shot once for Quinn when he was vomiting because he was constipated, and he recovered well.

But Wizard was OK after that… I think we just gave him some pills instead. And he slowly got better. He was FIV plus, he did eventually get lymphoma at the end of his life, but he lived till 21 or so. For quite a while he was treated with steroids. But we had to be careful because he already had kidney disease by that point and he was on fluids. Kidney disease is another possibility for what’s going on with your cat, but that would show up in the creatinine, etc., if they did that.

If a cat has been vomiting, and is having trouble eating. It’s often recommended to give them boiled chicken and rice, but I would grind it up to a pate probably to make it easier for him to eat and digest. Another thing you can do if they are vomiting several times in the short time span is to not feed them for a few hours to give their stomach etc. a chance to rest. But make sure they have plenty of water available so they don’t get dehydrated.

The lickable treats and baby food with no onion are another good thing to try for a cat that’s having digestive issues. Cat nip can help nausea also.

Also keep in mind that buttermilk and other dairy products sometimes can upset a cat’s stomach because not all cats can digest lactose well. My Sybil, loved ice cream and she could digest cream and dairy. So it varies with each cat. Yogurt may be better because the bacteria in yogurt helps digest the lactose, I think also the lactose in yogurt is maybe reduced because of the fermentation.

Here is a link with ideas about vomiting and Gastro problems in cats-


Also, did you discuss with your Dvm that what’s going on with your two cats could be related in someway? I wonder if it could be some type of parasite too. Were they tested for that?

Traneximic acid is usually used in cats that are hemorrhaging or critically ill so I assume your DVM thinks there is active bleeding somewhere? Did she or he say anything about that? I guess it could’ve just been used in case there was bleeding from vomiting, etc. But I would think if they thought there was active bleeding they would want to do an x-ray or something and figure out what was causing it.
 
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Thank you for telling us what is going on. I think his symptoms could be a reaction to what is going on. My cats have leukemia and their WBC was almost nonexistant. at least you know the bone marrow is still working if the RBC count is high, it could be concentrated from dehydration, or in response to losing the RBC through active bleeding. Right now the main thing is to get him to eat and give him time to recover. Get some lickable treats and see what he likes. My cats eat a small amount of Delectable Lickables in the stew flavors even when sick. Even a few licks a couple of times a day helps. i agree with adding water to his wety food to make it where he can lick it up. He needs water too. All the luck, we'll be here if you need to talk......
 

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Lots of information above, but more confusing than anything else, as was stated above. There are just too many things that could be going on, but I would assume the simplest kinds of things to begin with, such as dehydration before going overboard on other possibilities.

How is he doing now?
 
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Lots of information above, but more confusing than anything else, as was stated above. There are just too many things that could be going on, but I would assume the simplest kinds of things to begin with, such as dehydration before going overboard on other possibilities.

How is he doing now?
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Vet gave him saline. Antibiotic, antiemitic, bcomplex & multivitamin shots.

Antibiotic : cefquinome
Antiemitic : Prochlorperazine

His body temperature is 99.7 when I took him to the vet in the morning. Vet kept the saline tube in hot water bowl. While giving the saline and these shots. His body temperature became low and his white eyelids were shown. I became very scared. Vet immediately kept an oxygen mask to him. He is chewing the mask. So he gave him diazepam. After a while his body temperature came to normal. He woke up and was very drowsy by the time the saline is finished and was shivering. Vet told me to take him to the home and not to feed him anything till evening. I brought him home and tried to him in a crate. He meowed a lot and looked very weak.
Now when I am feeding my other cats.. I gave him food he ate it. But didn't drink water. He is not sleeping at one place. He is taking a short nap and moving to another place. I kept a water bowl in front of him. Not drinking water. Also I haven't seen him peeing.
 
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Also, did you discuss with your Dvm that what’s going on with your two cats could be related in someway? I wonder if it could be some type of parasite too. Were they tested for that?
I told him.. He said there's a possibility that it might be a parasitic infection. He said he has to be stabilized now.. then can proceed with parasitic treatments.
 

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I am glad to hear that the vet did give him fluids, so he probably was dehydrated. Fluids are normally warmed up a bit so it is more comfortable for the cat. I always warmed up Feeby's. Snowy's temp could be low from not eating much, as temp can be affected by a cat's blood glucose (sugar) level if it is low. Fluids can help a bit with that too.

I am not sure what the vet's reasoning was for the oxygen mask. Did they say?

In addition to helping Snowy eat with the antiemetic, keep in mind it is also a mild sedative and can cause some lethargy.

I am glad to hear he ate some. Was he dropping his food as before? To get more moisture in him, you can try wet food and even add some water to it, as long as he will eat it that way. Continue to monitor him to see if he pees soon.
 
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