Cat got surgery and a shot of Convenia and now I regret everything

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I bought a surgery suit, doesn't really work due to where the stitches were, they're about 1 inch on either side of his butt, the regular suits that allow for going to the litter don't cover the area well. A full coverage suit would in theory work, but I'm not sure how to deal with him wanting to go to the litter
Sounds difficult, my kitties would never wear the collars and just removed it themselves. But they didn’t chew their sutures etc.
 
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Sounds difficult, my kitties would never wear the collars and just removed it themselves. But they didn’t chew their sutures etc.
He is one of the most difficult cats. Very, very stubborn and wants to do what he wants, when he wants, and he will do all the things that are bad for him and fight us to do it.

We switched up his diet a little bit yesterday because we're running out of the one food he's doing well on, and this morning he vomited several times. So we're very unsure if it's the new food, the old food that's now not working, or something else.
 

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He is one of the most difficult cats. Very, very stubborn and wants to do what he wants, when he wants, and he will do all the things that are bad for him and fight us to do it.

We switched up his diet a little bit yesterday because we're running out of the one food he's doing well on, and this morning he vomited several times. So we're very unsure if it's the new food, the old food that's now not working, or something else.
Quinn is like that but he is very good at dvm etc. he has never worn a surgery funnel though. Maybe it’s the new food? I would get more of the food he is ok with and introduce anything else slowly.
 
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Quinn is like that but he is very good at dvm etc. he has never worn a surgery funnel though. Maybe it’s the new food? I would get more of the food he is ok with and introduce anything else slowly.
Same, IBDCat is great at the DVM, they always say he's a super compliant, nice patient. Hence why they're a bit condescending when we say we can't pill him or do any kind of care procedure on him really at home. He basically plays dead at the vet. At home, he has no respect for authority. He's a really big and strong OSH, so it's always a hazard to try and manhandle him.

The food he usually eats is backordered, and we were running out of the one bag we have, that's why we tried the alternative protein source, but this is the second time he pukes it up. The last time we chalked it off to the raw food having been left out too long and the house was warmer than usual, but this time it was fresh so I guess it's a no go. We'll try rabbit since they're out of his usual beef and salmon and hope he likes it and doesn't get sick on it.
 

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Same, IBDCat is great at the DVM, they always say he's a super compliant, nice patient. Hence why they're a bit condescending when we say we can't pill him or do any kind of care procedure on him really at home. He basically plays dead at the vet. At home, he has no respect for authority. He's a really big and strong OSH, so it's always a hazard to try and manhandle him.

The food he usually eats is backordered, and we were running out of the one bag we have, that's why we tried the alternative protein source, but this is the second time he pukes it up. The last time we chalked it off to the raw food having been left out too long and the house was warmer than usual, but this time it was fresh so I guess it's a no go. We'll try rabbit since they're out of his usual beef and salmon and hope he likes it and doesn't get sick on it.
Aww, Quinn is a traditional meezer so semi related, I love osh 😀 I heard they can be stubborn too. It’s almost funny to see him behave like a little angel at the DVM, although he can be very angelic at home too when he wants to be. Tg he does though. He’s a sweetie.

I hope the rabbit works out.

I didn’t know osh could be that large and strong, Quinn looks small, but he is very strong too and has a lot of muscle. But any cat who does not want to do something will put all the force of their spirit and body to not do it.
 
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Aww, Quinn is a traditional meezer so semi related, I love osh 😀 I heard they can be stubborn too. It’s almost funny to see him behave like a little angel at the DVM, although he can be very angelic at home too when he wants to be. Tg he does though. He’s a sweetie.

I hope the rabbit works out.

I didn’t know osh could be that large and strong, Quinn looks small, but he is very strong too and has a lot of muscle. But any cat who does not want to do something will put all the force of their spirit and body to not do it.
I love meezers! I used to have a traditional one back in the days, he was such a sociable cat. Usually the OSH are smaller cats, yes. IBDCat is, at his healthy weight, around 13,5 lbs, and he's very muscular with strong very long legs. When sitting up he's a full head taller than our other OSH. He's a bit of an anomaly, but he's also the sweetest cat 99% of the time.
 
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I love meezers! I used to have a traditional one back in the days, he was such a sociable cat. Usually the OSH are smaller cats, yes. IBDCat is, at his healthy weight, around 13,5 lbs, and he's very muscular with strong very long legs. When sitting up he's a full head taller than our other OSH. He's a bit of an anomaly, but he's also the sweetest cat 99% of the time.
He sounds great 😀 Quinn is 14 lbs according to the last visit but he is not big and does not feel like it to me, I think it’s a mistake. He is very muscular though, but smallish. When he was a kitten he was so tiny. He looks just like the seal-points brought over in the 1900’s but smaller. My Wizard who was part osh was smaller, all black and more svelte etc. he had 0 fat. I heard osh are very sweet etc.
 
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Giving an update on IBD cat. He's started throwing up a lot right after breakfast again. Of course, being a cat, he chose the most inconvenient spot to be sick from, the top of the cat tree. The last time he did that was while he was being fed chicken and/or tuna, so we're afraid maybe he's now allergic to his current food (salmon and beef).

Since his current food is frozen raw, and we have to drive quite a distance to get it, maybe this one was warmed too much on the drive back (didn't fit in the icebox). So potential DDX: now allergic to one of the ingredients, that batch got too warm during transit and is spoiled, that batch from the supplier is bad, he caught a bug from the raw food (salmonella? E.coli? Other?), he caught a bug from elsewhere, his thyroid is really causing issues...

Trying to book a follow up appointment in internal medicine. I thought we were finally out of the woods, but I guess not.
 

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Giving an update on IBD cat. He's started throwing up a lot right after breakfast again. Of course, being a cat, he chose the most inconvenient spot to be sick from, the top of the cat tree. The last time he did that was while he was being fed chicken and/or tuna, so we're afraid maybe he's now allergic to his current food (salmon and beef).

Since his current food is frozen raw, and we have to drive quite a distance to get it, maybe this one was warmed too much on the drive back (didn't fit in the icebox). So potential DDX: now allergic to one of the ingredients, that batch got too warm during transit and is spoiled, that batch from the supplier is bad, he caught a bug from the raw food (salmonella? E.coli? Other?), he caught a bug from elsewhere, his thyroid is really causing issues...

Trying to book a follow up appointment in internal medicine. I thought we were finally out of the woods, but I guess not.
Sorry he is vomiting 🤗 I hope you get this figured out and he improves. Is he on Pepcid and an anti-nausea med .
 
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Meowmee Meowmee no, he's not on any meds except miralax and lactulose right now. The vets never recommended anything other than those. The internal medicine vet agreed last time it's likely allergies, and since we had the vomiting under control for months he just told us to keep doing whatever we were doing.
 
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So, the verdict from the specialist: most likely this is an allergic reaction again, so we can try to exclude the beef and see if it resolves the issue, if not we can go the other way and exclude all the fish and see if beef is fine. Also testing for free T4 levels because his total T4 was elevated but he doesn't have any hyperthyroid symptoms. Apparently that's a thing in dogs, not cats, to have elevated total T4 as compensation for low free T4, usually autoimmune and leads to hypothyroid. Very expensive blood test that apparently we'll have to do yearly. I'm also upset they had to take the sample from the jugular, when I explicitly said they should not do that unless absolutely necessary.

Also that he's likely going to need laxatives for life so we're keeping up the lactulose, but he agreed we can feed him dry instead of wet food for now since we're so limited in options on what to feed him and he much prefers the freeze dried food and kibble to the wet food he's allowed to eat.

No vomiting since Monday, so fingers crossed the issue was a new allergy to beef and hopefully he'll be fine from now on with fish only in his diet. Maybe we'll reintroduce lamb at some point to test if we can find a limited ingredient one without green-lipped mussels. IBD cat is just thrilled to have the kibbles again, even when sticky and coated with lactulose.
 

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Maybe we'll reintroduce lamb at some point to test if we can find a limited ingredient one without green-lipped mussels.
I'm coming in on your story late but this particular line struck me because I'm about 95% sure one of our cats has a sensitivity or allergy to green-lipped mussels. It's become moderately common in foods and supplements; it was in a completer that I used to use for homemade food.
 
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I'm coming in on your story late but this particular line struck me because I'm about 95% sure one of our cats has a sensitivity or allergy to green-lipped mussels. It's become moderately common in foods and supplements; it was in a completer that I used to use for homemade food.
About half the brands we used to buy include it. Thing is, we adhered to the "variety makes a cat happy" doctrine so we fed them a ton of different foods both dry and canned, changing it up almost every day, so it's hard to say which ingredient really was problematic for sure other than chicken and tuna which consistently correlated with vomiting, sometimes violent vomiting. Since he refused a ton of different food and for a while we switched it up almost every three days just to get him to eat, it's hard to say if the symptoms were because of that ingredient or just leftover symptoms from a previous protein source. Not taking chances anymore.

Because a lot of the alternative proteins we tried such as lamb and venison also had green lipped mussel and other potential irritants like gums, we couldn't tell what the cause of the vomiting was and right now the only foods we consistently (so far, at least) have not had issues with are salmon, cod, herring. Which basically means he's on Open Farm freeze dried and Farmina kitten food with cod, one of the few recipes without chicken fat.
 

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Thing is, we adhered to the "variety makes a cat happy" doctrine so we fed them a ton of different foods both dry and canned, changing it up almost every day, so it's hard to say which ingredient really was problematic for sure other than chicken and tuna which consistently correlated with vomiting, sometimes violent vomiting. Since he refused a ton of different food and for a while we switched it up almost every three days just to get him to eat, it's hard to say if the symptoms were because of that ingredient or just leftover symptoms from a previous protein source. Not taking chances anymore.
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Yes, I've done the same, simply to try to end problems! There are a few where I'm certain -- potato and agar-agar -- then some, like the mussels that I'm close to certain that they're problems. But then there's a list of stuff like tapioca, xanthan gum, and maltodextrin, where I'm not really sure but don't like the ingredients to begin with so am happy enough to keep them off the menu.

Which is to say that I'm very much with you on not taking chances!
 
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