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Can Bone Trigger Vomiting In Ibd Cat?

Discussion in 'Raw & Home-Cooked Cat Food' started by Cindus, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. Cindus

    Cindus Thread Starter TCS Member Young Cat

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    I have a cat with suspected IBD who vomits regularly. I switched from chicken to turkey (Hare Today 80/10/10 grind with Alnutrin) about four weeks ago and have seen no change. Is it possible that it's not the protein source but the little bone bits in the grind that are causing him to barf? It's always bile, usually with hair, and often a few teeny pieces of bone. He's always had a sensitive stomach and habitually vomited up dry cat-food for years (my ignorance was never his bliss).

    I have to make another HT order soon. Would it be worthwhile to try a completely boneless chicken mix -- i.e., boneless ground, ground organ, Alnutrin with eggshell?
     

  2. daftcat75

    daftcat75 TCS Member Top Cat

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    It is absolutely worth the experiment. I’m not sure IBD cats digest bone all that well. They usually already have digestive disorders hence the IBD.
     
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  3. lisahe

    lisahe TCS Member Top Cat

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    I agree with daftcat75 about "worth the experiment." Our cats really love Alnutrin with eggshell.

    That said, don't rule out the fur: one of our cats sometimes vomits up very similar, ah, stuff (bile and fur, very little if any food, no bone) and the common factor in those barfs is almost always that we haven't been very good about brushing her. She does well as long as she's brushed every day. (The egg yolk that we put on the cats' food may help, too.) This vet-written article mentions hair as an irritant, calling it "hair gastritis." I have to think that if hair can be an irritant, little pieces of bone could be, too.

    FWIW, Edwina also has a sensitive stomach. And since it sounds like your cat isn't young, I'll also repeat what our vet is always telling us: motility declines with age and that can cause more fur/hairball issues.

    Good luck!
     
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  4. Cindus

    Cindus Thread Starter TCS Member Young Cat

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    What recipe do you use? I have my spreadsheet open trying to figure out how to mix Alnutrin with ground HT boneless and organ. It feels weird ignoring the bone-content field. I'm going by the proportions in the Alnutrin "basic raw chicken diet" recipe. It looks like they're doing 93% boneless, 7% liver. How does this sound?

    2268g (5lb. chub) boneless chicken or turkey
    600g ground chicken organ (67% meat, 33% liver)
    38g Alnutrin with eggshell calcium

    Thank you both for your replies. My poor kitty has been having such a tough time. He's 12 and went downhill rapidly after his lifelong buddy died last summer. I initially thought he was grieving (I sure was) but he just never recovered. He lost two pounds, which he's never put back on, and started vomiting. He definitely lost the weight before beginning their four-month transition to raw, but I can't remember when the vomiting started. I initially thought it was just a hairball issue until I came across a description of IBD.

    With any luck, this new mix will do the trick. Both cats have super silky fur and lots of energy (even my skinny guy). I'd hate to have to go back to Fancy Feast. :frown:
     
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  5. lisahe

    lisahe TCS Member Top Cat

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    I just use (plain) meat, liver, and supplement, though I need/want to start adding fish oil. (I'm still relatively new to Alnutrin!) I use the premeasured packets so it's just one pound of meat and some relatively small amount of liver. About an ounce or so? I forget exactly: I weighed a bunch out when I first got started.

    I make food with cooked meat but of course the proportions are just the same if you don't cook the meat.

    I'm so sorry to hear about your cat's health issues -- it's so difficult when they age and problems like these intensify. Our previous cat had all sorts of health problems continue developing in her last years, too.

    Alnutrin will send you a sample pack (for a pound of meat) if you print out and send them a little slip from their site.
     
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