Sudden & Traumatic Death, Please Respond!

lilin

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I have seen inside cats and they enjoy going outside. I would feel terrible if I forced a cat to stay inside forever
It really depends on the cat. My lazy lap cat couldn't be paid enough to go outside! I've actually tried, with a yard and on a leash, and she just doesn't like it. Home is where the cuddles and the predictability are, and that's what she likes. Keep in mind, even if they're not as docile as dogs, these are still domestic animals. They're adapted for a somewhat less wild lifestyle. And some are domestic to the point where they genuinely have no interest in the great frontier, so to speak. All Pia wants is cuddles, food, and warm. None of those things are guaranteed outside, so outside holds little appeal to her. It's just a big ball of unpredictable, as far as she's concerned!

And that's the other thing: there are safer ways to let a cat out than to simply let them roam in the streets, eating whatever poison might be around or getting hit by cars. Some cats really take to leash walks (I had a cat who loved it). If you have a yard, balcony, or patio, you can cat-safe it and let them out there.

Either of those solutions will prevent the tragedy you just watched with your friend.

As someone else said, free-roaming cats usually die very young and traumatically. It's not fair to them to let them suffer like that, in a world that isn't friendly for them. They're not fully wild critters with a habitat. They're domestics living in human societies, thousands of miles from where their wild ancestors evolved, and they don't have a safe niche in nature, nor are they as well-equip for independent survival as their wild cousins. That's just the reality of the matter.

We can think it's unfair that we've made creatures with reduced ability to be independent and live on their own terms (and I actually do think it's unfair -- if I could wave a magic wand and give all domestics the survival ability to freely decide if they'll be with humans, I would), but the fact is that they're here whether anyone likes it or not, and we need to look after them.

So, I hear what you're saying. But the reality is that many cats genuinely prefer indoors, and outdoor roaming domestics suffer terribly in many cases, and often die when they're still in their youths.
 
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My minou that recently passed love to stay in back yard with me i didnt even have to put leash on her she allways listen she enjoyed sun wind blowing on her and hot pavment she rooled around all the time i miss her so much i dont like leave my furry friend outsides unsupervised it dangerous world
 

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I'm so sorry about your cat friend. That is just awful. :( I've had 7 cats in my life so far and they all have been indoor only. They are very happy and they don't even try to get outside. On my drive to work I see cats dead on the road almost everyday. I would never let a cat outside unless it was on a leash or in an enclosure, it's just to dangerous.
 

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Adventure Cats, excellent choice, @Kieka! Nothing compare to a being driven by a cat in the wilderness or even in the green area nearby. The only point is to use a safe harness, as safe as possible.

i used to do so with my tom-cat and it is an unbelievable experience. It is not danger-free, but is far less dangerous than free roaming.

I dont want to say more, not to ruin your fun.
 

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I am not very much in favor of wild animals as pets, but who loves cat-adventure may find Savannah cats very exciting. They are serval's hybrids. From F3 up, they can be sold in majority of jurisdictions as pets, as far as I know.

Certain behavior marks of Savannah cats are similar to the dogs ones.

I must stress that Savannah cats are partially serval, which means they are as wild as an animal can be (although they are somehow "domesticated" and live with humans, dont hunt them - well, I would not bet on this :-)) , so trusted breeders is a must and plenty of time and patience is a requisite to the owner.

Their price is high, but this is better not to discuss, because owning a partial serval cat is not just owning an asset (we do not "own" our relatives, we dont attach a price to them :-)).
 

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The neighbour's cat would occasionally come into our backyard and leave. Three weeks ago, she came and waited outside our window and then walked into our house. We gave her some food and put her outside again. The next day, she came back. And kept willingly coming back everyday. It wasn't the food, because we would avoid feeding her as we did not want to give her the wrong thing. It was the love and attention that made her keep coming back.

She loved us. And we loved her so much. She would come to our house and she felt so comfortable. Often I would come home to see her waiting outside the door to be let in. She never wanted to go back to her owners house, but we would put her outside so she would. I'm not sure if she actually went back as she was an outside cat. I only ever fed her cat food, Whiskas cat milk and water. Nothing else.

Yesterday, she was fine. Her usual playful self. We then put her outside for a while, but she didnt go anywhere. She just walked around our yard for a minute and sat on the outside chairs. I then opened the door to call her inside, but she wouldnt move. This was very unusual, as she usually would run inside. I came back 15 minutes later and opened the door again, but she just looked at me. She was in the same spot. This was very odd, as not even shaking her food bowel was enough to make her move.

I walked outside to try to move her. Usually she would stand up straightaway to avoid it, but she just layed there and meowed. I tried to pick her up but it was hard because she was still laying down. I picked her up, took her inside and put her down on the couch. She stood on all four legs for about 15 seconds just fine as I patted her. But the moment she took a step, it was as if her back legs gave way. They buckled and she wobbled. She then tried to jump off the couch and she completely collapsed. She couldnt move. She was basically paralysed, laying on her side and she was gaping for air. I started to panic, picked her up and her mouth started foaming and something oozed out. Looked like either blood or food. I tried to sit her up so she wouldnt suffocate. I layed her down in the car and she coughed up foam one last time and stopped moving. She was still. Eyes wide open.

The emergency vet told me she was already dead. She didnt bother to find out exactly what was wrong but she suspected a bite or a toxin. I have no idea what it could have been... i have only ever fed her good quality food, there is no poison in our backyard and this all happened within minutes. I doubt it was a snake or anything as my backyard is small and mainly paved. The only thing I can think of was she occasionally wheezed and coughed on some days, but this looked like hairballs as she licked herself all the time.

I dont know how to live with myself. She was a young cat and i loved her so much. I took great care of her. She was the reason I woke up in the morning. My whole life feels like its been destroyed and my heart aches. I cant cant sleep and I cant stop crying.

Can anyone please offer me advice on what may have happened or how to grive this loss. Not moving much, weak collpasing legs, potentially paralyzed and collapsed, foaming from the mouth, substance oozing out and gaping for air... what happened...

I do not know who the owner is and she was not microschipped, so I dont know what to do...

Please help... i feel so horrible...
This is a really late response but reading this broke my heart and I'm fighting back tears rn. Not only would losing her be awful but the way she died right in front of you must have been so scary. I couldn't imagine going through that. The truth is she could have been a stary and just gotten into some garbage or something that may have had something really bad in it that caused it. I hope you're doing better and I hope you got your own cat, animals are amazing to have!
 

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I want to echo what everyone else has said and reiterate that it is not your fault. Outdoor cats have a much shorter lifespan precisely because of things like this. When I was a kid, my parents wouldn't let our cats indoors (other than the basement at night) and we lost all but one before the cats even turned 1 year old! One of them was lost in an equally traumatic way - she crawled up into the motor of a truck to get warm one cold evening and had its back ripped off, essentially. Her sister carried her up to our back porch and took care of her until my parents found her, still alive, the next morning. They took her to the vet and had her put down. When I was a teenager, I finally managed to convince my parents to let my cat come inside - obviously, as an adult, I am very much pro-indoor after seeing what my cats went through when I was a kid.

I have seen inside cats and they enjoy going outside. I would feel terrible if I forced a cat to stay inside forever
Many cats don't want to go outside at all, especially if they were raised inside since they were kittens. Part of being a good owner is to provide an interesting environment for them indoors. And in my opinion, it's kinder to keep them inside than to expose them to all the dangers of living outside.

But as others said, there are ways to safely let cats outside, including screened-in porches, cat runs and walking on a leash. Training cats to walk on a leash really isn't that hard - actually, you just train them to wear the harness and the leash, then you just follow them around as they explore. Of the 5 cats I've had in my life (not including all the ones that died before they grew to be adults), 3 have walked on leashes. The other two were scaredy-cats and I didn't even attempt to train them - I could just tell by their personalities that they would be terrified outside. The other 3 (including the one who spent the first 7 years of her life outside) were super easy to "train". Within a few days of indoor practice I could easily take them on walks. That's also how they preferred to go the vets. The vet staff would always get so excited watching how my cats seemed to perfectly "heel" while I was walking them through the building, although that never happened on our walks outside, lol.

I'm so sorry for what a terrible and sad experience this has been for you - but don't let it turn you off! You can provide a cat with a wonderful indoor life and still provide ways to enjoy the outdoors if they so wish. The way I think about it - there are so many cats in shelters right now, waiting for a home, potentially waiting to be put to sleep if they don't have one - isn't it better to give them an all-indoor life with a loving family than let them sit in a shelter or have their lives ended too soon? Give yourself time to grieve your dear friend, but don't give up on owning cats - you seem like the sort of person who has so much love to give! One day, when you're up to it, I hope you'll consider getting a cat of your own!
 
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