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2 days old chicken
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Has it been refrigerated? Was it slaughtered or did it die naturally? Was it bled?
I don't think I'd feed a dead chicken that had been lying around for 2 days, although I know they eat old prey in the wild. And if it died naturally I would want to know what it died of. But if it was slaughtered and refrigerated it should be OK.
If you're worried about parasites you can remove the guts before feeding it to your cats.
I don't think I'd feed a dead chicken that had been lying around for 2 days, although I know they eat old prey in the wild. And if it died naturally I would want to know what it died of. But if it was slaughtered and refrigerated it should be OK.
If you're worried about parasites you can remove the guts before feeding it to your cats.
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I agree with Willowy. But if your cats sniff it and walk away, take that as a sign and throw the food out (and any other batches from the same chicken). And certainly if the cat throw up right away, toss.
Why do I think the poster means two day old chicks?
Like feeder animals?
In case you havent watched that terrible video, male chickens are not really desired at egg producing chicken hatcheries.
Now that I think about it, they could repurpose that for raw cat food (for those who know what video I am talking about)
Like feeder animals?
In case you havent watched that terrible video, male chickens are not really desired at egg producing chicken hatcheries.
Now that I think about it, they could repurpose that for raw cat food (for those who know what video I am talking about)
Oh! Yes, now I think that's what the OP is talking about. If so, yep, 2-day-old chicks make good raw food for kitties. Guts and all, I don't think they get parasites that young.
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Really? 2 days old chickens usually don't get worms? That would be great.
Yes, these are feeder animals.
I am deciding if I should buy these from a breeder, but the thing is that they supply 2 days old chickens to many people who have cats.
And they consumes hundreds or thousands of baby chickens. I wonder if they injected growth hormone or something to meet the demand.
I also asked some people who bought from the breeder. They told me they deworm their cats every 4 months just in case.
Is it a necessary to deworm cats regularly? Does anyone here do that?
Yes, these are feeder animals.
I am deciding if I should buy these from a breeder, but the thing is that they supply 2 days old chickens to many people who have cats.
And they consumes hundreds or thousands of baby chickens. I wonder if they injected growth hormone or something to meet the demand.
I also asked some people who bought from the breeder. They told me they deworm their cats every 4 months just in case.
Is it a necessary to deworm cats regularly? Does anyone here do that?
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I do de-worm my cats regularly. You can track worm eggs in on your shoes, fleas carry worms, etc. I wouldn't worry about the chicks having worms but de-worming regularly is a good idea anyway. Use something safe that your vet recommends (many are available OTC but get the vet's OK to use it anyway).
It's illegal to use hormones in chickens for human consumption. . .well, in the U.S. at least. Do they only provide chicks for animal feed or do they also provide them for humans? You can ask them about what they give the chicks. Most non-organic places give them medicated feed with antibiotics in it but at 2 days old maybe not. Doesn't hurt to ask!
It's illegal to use hormones in chickens for human consumption. . .well, in the U.S. at least. Do they only provide chicks for animal feed or do they also provide them for humans? You can ask them about what they give the chicks. Most non-organic places give them medicated feed with antibiotics in it but at 2 days old maybe not. Doesn't hurt to ask!
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I think the breeder does that privately and I am not sure if they provide chicks for humans. I buy it through another cat owner, who knows the breeder, and for some reason this person doesn't let us buy directly from the breeder. I will try to ask them what they give the chicks.
I haven't dewormed any of my cats before, I will check with the vet if it is ok since my cats are all old. I hope deworming will not do any harm.
I haven't dewormed any of my cats before, I will check with the vet if it is ok since my cats are all old. I hope deworming will not do any harm.
If you get a high-quality de-wormer from the vet, and it's dosed properly according to each cat's weight, it should be very safe. If you don't want to dose unnecessarily, you can have the vet do a fecal exam to look for evidence of worms.
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I would like to make it a once a year treatment, maybe every two (I get urine tests every two).
I have a number of cats, all at risk, 3 kittens, 2 adults, kittens eat raw, adults go outside (These cats are at two different houses, long story).
One of my kittens came down with a bunch of URI's and they gave him a 5 day oral dewormer (1 ml shot in mouth).
Another doctor years ago seemed to give a single dose dewormer.
As long as these are safe, I would prefer them over fecal exams which if you have a private adult cat, it can be very hard to "catch them in the act" as they say.
Can you suggest any?
I would like to make it a once a year treatment, maybe every two (I get urine tests every two).
I have a number of cats, all at risk, 3 kittens, 2 adults, kittens eat raw, adults go outside (These cats are at two different houses, long story).
One of my kittens came down with a bunch of URI's and they gave him a 5 day oral dewormer (1 ml shot in mouth).
Another doctor years ago seemed to give a single dose dewormer.
As long as these are safe, I would prefer them over fecal exams which if you have a private adult cat, it can be very hard to "catch them in the act" as they say.
If your cats go outside, they should be treated preventatively for parasites anyway, IMO.
I use topical parasite treatments on the ferals I can. I use Frontline for fleas and ticks, and I use Revolution for internal parasites.
Panacur and Strongid-T and liquids that can be used for internal parasites - roundworm and others. To treat for roundworm, treatment must be done at least twice, best three times, three weeks apart. The poisons used (whether it's Revolution, Panacur or StrongidT) kill various stages of life cycle, but NONE kill the eggs, which develop into adults, so the doses must be given at least twice, three weeks apart or you don't stop the cycle.
Droncit is a pill that is used for tapeworm. Needs to be give just once. Drontal supposedly treats tapeworm and round worm, but the roundworm up this way are resistant to it.
Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth can be given regularly with each meal - supposedly treats all parasites safely, and it's not a poison. I've only used it outside to control slugs.
But if feeding whole prey with the guts, I believe the concern is roundworm. That can easily be detected in a fecal exam, which should cost about $15 or so - and would save the cat(s) from needed to have poison administered unnecessarily.
There may well be other dewormers of which I'm not aware. All of the above are safe in the right dose - but they are poison. (Except the Food Grade DE. It's the only non-poison option I'm aware of).
I use topical parasite treatments on the ferals I can. I use Frontline for fleas and ticks, and I use Revolution for internal parasites.
Panacur and Strongid-T and liquids that can be used for internal parasites - roundworm and others. To treat for roundworm, treatment must be done at least twice, best three times, three weeks apart. The poisons used (whether it's Revolution, Panacur or StrongidT) kill various stages of life cycle, but NONE kill the eggs, which develop into adults, so the doses must be given at least twice, three weeks apart or you don't stop the cycle.
Droncit is a pill that is used for tapeworm. Needs to be give just once. Drontal supposedly treats tapeworm and round worm, but the roundworm up this way are resistant to it.
Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth can be given regularly with each meal - supposedly treats all parasites safely, and it's not a poison. I've only used it outside to control slugs.
But if feeding whole prey with the guts, I believe the concern is roundworm. That can easily be detected in a fecal exam, which should cost about $15 or so - and would save the cat(s) from needed to have poison administered unnecessarily.
There may well be other dewormers of which I'm not aware. All of the above are safe in the right dose - but they are poison. (Except the Food Grade DE. It's the only non-poison option I'm aware of).
Hmmm, well these cats are indoors, but came from same breeder, delivered one month apart. (5 months old)
Today Martin is getting neutered, paid for a fecal (even though breeder does it, this guy came in as a replacement for another).
I have a human perspective on these, as that I dont want a ticking time bomb in them (parasites) and I know that fecal samples are hard to come by.
Same reason I want to know if my cats have toxic bladder to prep for or at least know to expect UTI.
I live in baltimore city, so these guys will never go out. I have never had mice, but have always had cats.
They do however eat raw that has passed the "15 min rule" (in that the raw could be there for up to 8 hours, eaten, or drying on the bowl), I dont know if this can lead to parasites like we think in the human sense, but that is a long drawn out conversation we have had before.
I could do revolution, but again, it feels like I am trying to kill a fly with a sledghammer.
Maybe test and treat is best, and just stick to forced fecal exams when they get yearly checkup.
I want the fly (parasite) to know his place and realize he is not welcome to freeload of my babies.
Today Martin is getting neutered, paid for a fecal (even though breeder does it, this guy came in as a replacement for another).
I have a human perspective on these, as that I dont want a ticking time bomb in them (parasites) and I know that fecal samples are hard to come by.
Same reason I want to know if my cats have toxic bladder to prep for or at least know to expect UTI.
I live in baltimore city, so these guys will never go out. I have never had mice, but have always had cats.
They do however eat raw that has passed the "15 min rule" (in that the raw could be there for up to 8 hours, eaten, or drying on the bowl), I dont know if this can lead to parasites like we think in the human sense, but that is a long drawn out conversation we have had before.
I could do revolution, but again, it feels like I am trying to kill a fly with a sledghammer.
Maybe test and treat is best, and just stick to forced fecal exams when they get yearly checkup.
I want the fly (parasite) to know his place and realize he is not welcome to freeload of my babies.
Well, if your cats are not rescue kitties and never go outside, I doubt they need deworming. Are you feeding chicks? Because even most whole prey bought frozen doesn't include the guts, so you don't really need to worry about round worm. :dk:
If the chicks are humanely euthanized, then frozen for a week or so, they would be safe to feed after unthawing. Freezing kills parasites like worms, but doesn't kill bacteria--which shouldn't be a concern if not left out for long periods of time after unthawing.
Thanks Laurie, so basically this boy had his FIV tests and fecal done, but a month ago (got him a month later than sister who had those tests the day before i got her).Well, if your cats are not rescue kitties and never go outside, I doubt they need deworming. Are you feeding chicks? Because even most whole prey bought frozen doesn't include the guts, so you don't really need to worry about round worm.
Yesterday he got neutered, and painfully I paid for the fiv and fecal tests again, and they were negative.
However they still recommended Revolution on his exit papers, not much explanation so I will double check with the vet.
We live in Baltimore city, no going outside. I guess fleas could fly in, maybe if they find a rat or mouse and eat it (although i have never seen one, rats are common behind my house) they could eat a parasite.
Seems like overkill, the budget is already buldging without 30$ of topical meds a month.
My cats are all feral rescues. They're indoor only. We went through the deworming process with each one as rescued, and that was that. I feed them raw, but have no reason to believe anything I'm feeding them would result in internal parasites.
I care for a colony of feral cats right outside the front door, and I interact with a number of them. I've managed to never bring in fleas or ticks or any parasite that spread among the indoor kitties.
The only internal parasites hard to find in a fecal are those that shed oocysts - like Toxo or Giardia or Crypto... and T. Foetus can be hard to detect. But if your cats are not feral rescues and haven't been hunting, drinking out of puddles, or eating garbage or dirt, there's simply no reason to think they'd have any of these things, particularly if they have normal poop and no apparent GI problems.
The recommended treatment with Revolution may be because it prevents heartworm. But makes no sense to me this time of year. We live in Northern NJ and don't treat our indoor cats with it, ever, even though we do get mosquitos in the house at times during the summer.
Every once in a while I'll take a stool sample out of the litter box and drop it at the vet. The assumption is if anyone has anything, they all need to be treated. Nothing's ever turned up once we completed the initial process when they were first rescued.
I care for a colony of feral cats right outside the front door, and I interact with a number of them. I've managed to never bring in fleas or ticks or any parasite that spread among the indoor kitties.
The only internal parasites hard to find in a fecal are those that shed oocysts - like Toxo or Giardia or Crypto... and T. Foetus can be hard to detect. But if your cats are not feral rescues and haven't been hunting, drinking out of puddles, or eating garbage or dirt, there's simply no reason to think they'd have any of these things, particularly if they have normal poop and no apparent GI problems.
The recommended treatment with Revolution may be because it prevents heartworm. But makes no sense to me this time of year. We live in Northern NJ and don't treat our indoor cats with it, ever, even though we do get mosquitos in the house at times during the summer.
Every once in a while I'll take a stool sample out of the litter box and drop it at the vet. The assumption is if anyone has anything, they all need to be treated. Nothing's ever turned up once we completed the initial process when they were first rescued.
Thanks, alright then I need to research heartworm.
But for now, no Frontline/Revolution, savings will go to
Sadly in the summer, my door open will let them in. Baltimore is humid and my house is surronded by bright street lamps.
To those here looking to read about 2 day old chickens, sorry.
But for now, no Frontline/Revolution, savings will go to
Sadly in the summer, my door open will let them in. Baltimore is humid and my house is surronded by bright street lamps.
To those here looking to read about 2 day old chickens, sorry.
Is he out on a leash, supervised? Because unless he's eating dirt or rodents or birds or garbage, it's very unlikely he'll get worms.
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