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I agree with FeebysOwner FeebysOwner about the use of lasix and pred, especially the use of lasix which is really to remove fluids in the case of heart disease, etc. Usually, if a bacteria is antibiotic resistant it means that another one is used. I have a huge list of reactions to most common antibiotics myself but another one has always been found. Definitely what did the vet who wrote the report base his conclusions on?
I will not take the cat today to the hospital so that he can't give any injections he like. I asked him if any other antibiotics work for him if those antibiotics which were mentioned in the list are resistant. He's blabbering.. He doesn't know. The vet which I usually consult is on leave all these days. He'll come to duty today. May be he'll help. Enrofloxacin is also used to treat bacterial infections of urinary tract in cats. It isn't mentioned in the list. I'll ask the vet whether we can administer it to him or not.
 
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The handwritten note suggests that the vet found bacteria in his urine and ran a urine culture to determine what antibiotics would work best on an infection/bacteria. You don't normally run a urine culture to look for the best antibiotics to use unless bacteria is found. So, I am unclear on that part myself.
I agree with FeebysOwner FeebysOwner about the use of lasix and pred, especially the use of lasix which is really to remove fluids in the case of heart disease, etc. Usually, if a bacteria is antibiotic resistant it means that another one is used. I have a huge list of reactions to most common antibiotics myself but another one has always been found. Definitely what did the vet who wrote the report base his conclusions on?
His fecal and blood reports are completely normal. Today I met the lab technician who gave the hand written urine analysis report. She told me there is infection in his urine and we can't identify what it is. We used the antibiotics we had in our hospital to see which is working but all are resistant to it. I took these reports to another vet. He said may be it is a viral infection and gave some immunity boost powder. But he's not sneezing or coughing and moreover his body temperature is constantly low. The vet whom I met on day 1 gave me an antibiotic Amoxicillin and potassium clavulanate oral suspension. He told me to administer it 2.5 ml twice a day for 5 days which means 5ml. 5ml means 200 mg. Is it drug overdose? Is it the cause for his low body temperature and diarrhea? I told this vet about the whole situation. He said cats don't need 5ml . They need only 2-3 ml of amoxycillin but I don't think it is the reason for his illness. He is thinking it is viral infection and that might be also true because the lab technician said there is an infection. But I read the causes of low body temperature are due to toxins, infection in blood or leakage in intestines. There should be some reason behind his low body temperature no? May be the antibiotic has killed the good bacteria in his gut and that can be the reason for his diarrhea. I'm giving him probiotics for his diarrhea and electrolytes now. Is there anything I can do to flush the toxins from his body if that is the reason? I gave this antibiotic 2.5ml twice a day ( every 12 hours) for 5 days. It's been 4 days since I last administered it to him. What can I do now?
 
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Although it doesn't help in identifying what is going on with your cat (did I miss where you told us his name?), it is still good news that the bloodwork and fecal tests came back normal!

I am not sure I would be trusting the vet with the handwritten urine analysis report at all. Are they the ones who prescribed the meds? As far as the dosage, antibiotics can be given in twice a day, which is fairly common. But, I agree with you the amount seems too high - close to double the daily dose a cat that weighs about 10 pounds would probably be prescribed, from what I know. I don't know what your cat weighs - I was just using the 10 pounds as a gauge. But, I know nothing of a side effect being a low temperature - not to say it isn't possible, but I have never heard of it. The low temp might be more to do with whatever possible viral issue he has. - and, no antibiotic will help with a viral infection unless it is being accompanied by a bacterial infection as well. Antibiotics most certainly can cause diarrhea, however.

Was the fecal test just a smear or float test? If it wasn't the full fecal PCR, it should have been - as that will look for various types of bacterial and viral infections. Not trying to spend your money, but you may want to follow up with a full fecal PCR. In this case, the stool sample has to be 'fresh' - in other words it can't be collected from a litter box, as far as I know.

What did any of these vets say about his low body temp? As I believe I suggested earlier, it is possible that he may just have a lower than normal temp - as I do. If he is still around the 99.9 temp he had before, it is just barely under the normal range. You can make sure he has a warm environment to help keep his temp up - blankets/towels so that he is not laying on any cold surfaces.
 
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Although it doesn't help in identifying what is going on with your cat (did I miss where you told us his name?), it is still good news that the bloodwork and fecal tests came back normal!

I am not sure I would be trusting the vet with the handwritten urine analysis report at all. Are they the ones who prescribed the meds? As far as the dosage, antibiotics can be given in twice a day, which is fairly common. But, I agree with you the amount seems too high - close to double the daily dose a cat that weighs about 10 pounds would probably be prescribed, from what I know. I don't know what your cat weighs - I was just using the 10 pounds as a gauge. But, I know nothing of a side effect being a low temperature - not to say it isn't possible, but I have never heard of it. The low temp might be more to do with whatever possible viral issue he has. - and, no antibiotic will help with a viral infection unless it is being accompanied by a bacterial infection as well. Antibiotics most certainly can cause diarrhea, however.

Was the fecal test just a smear or float test? If it wasn't the full fecal PCR, it should have been - as that will look for various types of bacterial and viral infections. Not trying to spend your money, but you may want to follow up with a full fecal PCR. In this case, the stool sample has to be 'fresh' - in other words it can't be collected from a litter box, as far as I know.

What did any of these vets say about his low body temp? As I believe I suggested earlier, it is possible that he may just"FeebysOwner, post: 5311223, member: 10021650"]
Although it doesn't help in identifying what is going on with your cat (did I miss where you told us his name?), it is still good news that the bloodwork and fecal tests came back normal!

I am not sure I would be trusting the vet with the handwritten urine analysis report at all. Are they the ones who prescribed the meds? As far as the dosage, antibiotics can be given in twice a day, which is fairly common. But, I agree with you the amount seems too high - close to double the daily dose a cat that weighs about 10 pounds would probably be prescribed, from what I know. I don't know what your cat weighs - I was just using the 10 pounds as a gauge. But, I know nothing of a side effect being a low temperature - not to say it isn't possible, but I have never heard of it. The low temp might be more to do with whatever possible viral issue he has. - and, no antibiotic will help with a viral infection unless it is being accompanied by a bacterial infection as well. Antibiotics most certainly can cause diarrhea, however.

Was the fecal test just a smear or float test? If it wasn't the full fecal PCR, it should have been - as that will look for various types of bacterial and viral infections. Not trying to spend your money, but you may want to follow up with a full fecal PCR. In this case, the stool sample has to be 'fresh' - in other words it can't be collected from a litter box, as far as I know.

What did any of these vets say about his low body temp? As I believe I suggested earlier, it is possible that he may just have a lower than normal temp - as I do. If he is still around the 99.9 temp he had before, it is just barely under the normal range. You can make sure he has a warm environment to help keep his temp up - blankets/towels so that he is not laying on any cold surfaces.
I realised I didn't mention his name anywhere. I'm sorry about that. His name is Snowy. Yeah, He weighs 10.9 pounds. They didn't do a full fecal PCR. I will give the fecal sample to another lab. I thought about it. But he's not pooping in daytime. And about his low temperature the before vet said it is just few degrees less. I don't care about what he say. But this vet said it is due to viral infection and told me to keep him warm. If it is viral infection it'll be contagious no? All my cats are using the same water fountain. I'm worried about them now. Can viral infection be identified in urine or fecal sample? And about that antibiotic... I already gave him very high dosage. Can I do anything about it now?
I know I'm troubling you a lot. I'm very sorry. I'm very worried about my cat. Vets here are not giving me proper information. I can't count on them. I have no where to go.
 

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Can viral infection be identified in urine or fecal sample?
A fecal PCR can identify certain viral issues. Certain viral conditions can be contagious among cats; most are not for humans. It is less of an issue if the other cats have been vaccinated.
If you give Snowy the antibiotics, I would no longer give it at the original dosage. BUT, you need to pick one vet and use them - it isn't working to go from one to the other.
 

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You aren't bothering anyone....I am sorry that everything has been so inconclusive. I agree that having one vet be in control is the best and I would pick the one who seems most inclined to do some testing to get to the answer.
 
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A fecal PCR can identify certain viral issues. Certain viral conditions can be contagious among cats; most are not for humans. It is less of an issue if the other cats have been vaccinated.
If you give Snowy the antibiotics, I would no longer give it at the original dosage. BUT, you need to pick one vet and use them - it isn't working to go from one to the other.
You aren't bothering anyone....I am sorry that everything has been so inconclusive. I agree that having one vet be in control is the best and I would pick the one who seems most inclined to do some testing to get to the answer.
Snowy's body temperature has come to 99.1 F. Please somebody help me.
 
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Please call the vet and let them know about the temp. And, also ask about the fecal PCR test. I am guessing Snowy has some sort of viral issue, with any hope can be identified through more testing.
The vets they don't care. I'm searching for some online vets. But I want to know If it is viral it would have been transmitted to all my cats by now no? My cats are not vaccinated. And also it's been 12 days he's sick. He should recover by now right? He has no other symptoms. His stool is normal now. But he's spraying. His body temperature is worrisome. And he looks very dull today.
I read the news today. There's a Parovirus outbreak in my country. His symptoms are close to feline Parovirus. But read that it's highly contagious. And cats will start getting better after 5 days of started showing symptoms.
 
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The vets they don't care. I'm searching for some online vets. But I want to know If it is viral it would have been transmitted to all my cats by now no? My cats are not vaccinated. And also it's been 12 days he's sick. He should recover by now right? He has no other symptoms. His stool is normal now. But he's spraying. His body temperature is worrisome. And he looks very dull today.
Why can't you work with the vet that did the formal reports for you? Isn't this the same one who also ran bloodwork? IMO, they have at least provided the initial testing that is normally done, and if you tell them you want more testing done, I am sure they would be willing to do so since nothing yet has shown up in the results of what they have done so far. It would seem logical to me that the next step would be to test for certain viruses, and you should ask the vet about that - as well, as asking about the temperature. I wouldn't be chasing down yet another vet.

There are numerous viral conditions that he could possibly have - not all cause the same symptoms, they all vary, and some are more transmissible than others. No one here can answer those questions.

You need to be persistent with the vet that you want more testing done to see if they can identify Snowy's issue.
 
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Why can't you work with the vet that did the formal reports for you? Isn't this the same one who also ran bloodwork? IMO, they have at least provided the initial testing that is normally done, and if you tell them you want more testing done, I am sure they would be willing to do so since nothing yet has shown up in the results of what they have done so far. It would seem logical to me that the next step would be to test for certain viruses, and you should ask the vet about that - as well, as asking about the temperature. I wouldn't be chasing down yet another vet.

There are numerous viral conditions that he could possibly have - not all cause the same symptoms, they all vary, and some are more transmissible than others. No one here can answer those questions.

You need to be persistent with the vet that you want more testing done to see if they can identify Snowy's issue.
No he didn't do the blood test. The other hospital did it who gave meds to snowy. I dont trust those doctors so I took those reports and showed them to this vet. Trust me. Even he is not knowledgeable. He is saying upper respiratory tract infection. Which means it has to be herpes or calci virus. And snowy shows none of those symptoms. He is not sneezing, coughing, not having runny nose. His body temperature is low. That's it. The first day he got mild fever and vomited. And after that his temperature is constantly low. He had diarhhea.
 

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Did you ask the vet why they think it is a URI if he has none of the typical symptoms? Has any of these vets ran tests to look for any kind of virus, rather than just guessing? Since none of your cats have been vaccinated, the virus would likely be more easily identified through testing. The type of virus will help determine care and treatment. Most viruses can't be treated directly, but symptoms caused by the virus, and any secondary infections brought on by it, can be treated to help with your cat's immune system while he fights the viral infection.

If you have any friends/family/neighbors/co-workers who have cats, get a vet recommendation from one of them, since you don't seem to think you can deal with any of the current vets you have tried.

In the meantime, while you continue to look for additional help, keep your buddy warm to help with his temperature.
 
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Did you ask the vet why they think it is a URI if he has none of the typical symptoms? Has any of these vets ran tests to look for any kind of virus, rather than just guessing? Since none of your cats have been vaccinated, the virus would likely be more easily identified through testing. The type of virus will help determine care and treatment. Most viruses can't be treated directly, but symptoms caused by the virus, and any secondary infections brought on by it, can be treated to help with your cat's immune system while he fights the viral infection.

If you have any friends/family/neighbors/co-workers who have cats, get a vet recommendation from one of them, since you don't seem to think you can deal with any of the current vets you have tried.

In the meantime, while you continue to look for additional help, keep your buddy warm to help with his temperature.
One vet dismissed it. He said it is clearly not a viral infection but he's not even available to diagnose snowy's problem. Whenever I try to ask him he's saying 99.5 F is not that low. But it's been 12 days. There is definitely something that is troubling Snowy. I'm telling them he's not like his normal self. Though he's eating and drinking. He looks very depressed. I can see that. But they are not caring. The other vet said it is a viral infection. He guessed it because all reports are normal but he left that urinary tract issue. If it is viral it would have been transmitted by now. Viral infections look terrible also. Snowy is lethargic and having a low temperature. He's not active like always. He's only spraying to pee. These are his issues.
My Aunt has so many cats like me. I already asked her. Even she's having the same problem. She's a magistrate and she feels helpless. You can imagine the medical facilities in my country.
 
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In the meantime, while you continue to look for additional help, keep your buddy warm to help with his temperature.
I consulted an online vet now. He told me to do the kidney and liver function tests. He said it might be not a viral function. To confirm that he told me to do CBC. But the problem is the people here are saying they need veterinary equipments to get these tests done. They are no veterinary laboratories in my city.
 

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I thought you said earlier one of these vets ran blood work?
His fecal and blood reports are completely normal.
What did you mean by blood reports?

Where are you located, if you don't mind me asking? There may be others on the site that are located close enough to you that they may have some contacts.
 
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I thought you said earlier one of these vets ran blood work? What did you mean by blood reports?

Where are you located, if you don't mind me asking? There may be others on the site that are located close enough to you that they may have some contacts.
The vets I contacted suggested me to go to this hospital for the blood tests because there are no veterinary laboratories in my city and this hospital is owned by govt. and they will do it. They are only giving these hand written reports not complete reports. I attached you the blood report they gave me to you here. There isn't much information in there. I'm from Visakhapatnam, India. I'm trying to know where they do blood tests for cats near me. I'll be very grateful to you if you help me with this.
 

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I am not sure what I can do to help, but looking into it. Have you checked out any/all of these 3???
3 Best Veterinary Hospitals in Visakhapatnam - Expert Recommendations (threebestrated.in)
Just shooting in the dark, but also I found all of these:
Best hospitals in Visakhapatnam - List of top 33 best hospitals ! (bestofhealthindia.com)
I am so sorry...
I went to that clinic which was listed 1st in the 3 best veterinary hospitals in my city. He's the one who said it is viral infection.
 

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That second link above is wrong - not sure how I ended up pasting it into my post. Anyway, here is the link I was trying to post (see below). I am sure you already know about any of them that are nearby, but just in case...
Pet Clinics in Visakhapatnam - Visakhapatnam Pet Clinics - Best Pet Clinics in Visakhapatnam. - Andhra Pradesh (webindia123.com)

Your thread is now a featured one and your title includes the fact that you are in India. I am hoping that might elicit some attention from other members who are in India.
 
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Hi there! The antibiotic that you used for the 5 days is generic Clavamox and the common dosage is 62.5 mg per 1 mL. I don't know if you can get marshmallow root or slippery elm herbs in your country or what might be similar but you might be able to consult an online holistic vet - those herbs are from North America but I know "ma huang" from China is similar to "ephedra aka Mormon tea aka squaw tea aka desert tea" so maybe slippery elm and marshmallow root have S.E. Asian counterparts. The herbs have to be administered about 4 hours separately from modern medicine and if you are still giving steroids, you need to ask any holistic vet if they have good knowledge about combining traditional and modern medicine.
I highly recommend that no matter what, you try acupressure for your cat. All the trips to the vet, although necessary, might be stressful. You might find some acupressure therapy for urinary issues as well. Calming Cats With Acupressure | Animal Wellness Guide
For his food, avoid fish as much as possible and grains such as corn and rice. Dry kibble can be soaked. Cats cannot digest cows milk but goat milk is okay and my vet recommends it for ill or elderly cats as well as for orphan kittens.
To keep him warm, if you don't have a heated pet pad that uses electricity, use heated UNCOOKED/raw rice in a sock - an old tube sock is ideal. If you have a microwave oven, stuff the sock with rice and tie it off and heat it for 1 minute then, if it is not hot enough, 15 second intervals. If you don't have a microwave, make a wide-mouth funnel by cutting off the top third of a plastic juice bottle or use a paper cone. Heat the rice by sauteeing in a pan then put the funnel into the mouth of the sock and spoon the heated rice into the sock and tie off with a thread or hair tie.
Please keep us updated! Prayers and vibes for Snowy's speedy healing
 
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