Bully cat wont stop attacking my cat

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My neighbor and I have the solution due to several recently lost cats in the neighborhood. If you have a screen porch, put a bowl of food by the door for a couple of days and the stray will come to your place to dine. After you're sure this is working move the bowl inside the screen porch to where you can see when your visitor is at dinner and close the door from the outside. This may take 2 people, then you can enter the porch from the house and take the ferel cat to a shelter. If you check there are a number of no kill shelters available or you can take it to the vet for spay/neuter and relocate it after the surgery.
 

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I have a small 9 lb. male cat named Merlin who also has a bully cat enemy in the neighborhood.  He has been attacked several times by this other cat. Recently he came home with a back injury and a bleeding toe.  I think he gets attacked so much because he is small.  I have another male cat named Teddy who is 14 lbs and he does not get attacked.  My other two cats are female and they do not get attacked either.  I like my cats to be indoor/outdoor and have freedom.  I keep them in after dinner.  I tried limiting Merlin's time outside and he still got attacked.  My conclusion is that he is at risk because he is a small male.  I have just started training him to walk on a harness and leash.  I will have to supervise and watch him while he is outside.  I cannot just sit back and hope for the best and let him get hurt.  
 

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So sorry about Merlin.  He looks like a sweetie.  You sound like you have the issue under control by using a leash with him.

On another note, since I noticed it says you just joined and to let more people see Merlin's story and send replies, rather than reply to this thread - you might want to copy your post to a new post under this heading.  I'm sure you would have a number of responses.

Having a multi-cat household myself, 2 males, 1 female - different sizes - 1ferel male that just decided to join the house at the invitation of my other boy to dinner.  It's always interesting to see the dynamics.

I've been fortunate in that my 'kids' don't come home with injuries.  I know there is ferel colony (if that's what you call them) in the neighborhood but they don't seem to bother the domestic cats and from comments around the neighborhood, many of the neighbors have these cats that have taken up a life in their homes.  I say this because the 'bully' may very well be ferel protecting his females if Merlin hasn't been neutered.  Is that a possibility?
 

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I do agree with Amiz on declawing.  I didn't know until after my son had a cat declawed all 4 feet while he worked for a vet and was his protege, what was involved.  Most people think that declawing, is simply going in and killing the nail beds on a cats paws.  

It IS NOT!  They cut OFF the first joint of each toe, can you imagine waking up and having to immediately walk, jump up or down (even short distances) and scratch in a litter box with feet that have had the 1st joint on every toe cut OFF???  Bone surgery is the most painful there is, I've had it three times and the cat gets is ONE pain shot.

Our cat for the rest of her life had problems with cat litter until they came out with the new lite weight stuff that is so very soft.  She always had the sweetest personality.  It was because of my bully of an ex that my son did this.  Please - Please think before declawing!
 

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I'm having a problem almost like this..

Lately we've been seeing a stray cali wandering around our place. It's never tried to fight when my two cats, Tigger and Princess chace him away. Then Princess died...



A few hours ago, Tigger was peacefully sleeping in the garage while my grandparents when to bring my uncle home from work. They left the garage door open like normal.

Then we heard a caterwauling... So I got up, and ran into the garage. I found that cali in the garge, eating Tigger's catfood. I chased him out of the garage and he looked pretty startled to find me in there with him.


I shut the garage door and called for Tigger. He poked his head out from under the steps, then went back under. Eventully I got him to come back out. I brought him into the house and luckily, he is unscathed besides a small nick on his ear that im guessing is from a claw.


Tigger is a neutered tom who has always been nice to toms and shecats alike, before and after he was neutered. My grandmother is slightly allergic to cats, so we can't have Tigger inside for to long, he sleep, eats, and drinks in the garage.

Any help in how to keep the stray away?? Were positive it's a stray. None of our neighbor's have cats, and most of them wouldn't dream of getting a cat.
 

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I'm having a problem almost like this..

Lately we've been seeing a stray cali wandering around our place. It's never tried to fight when my two cats, Tigger and Princess chace him away. Then Princess died...



A few hours ago, Tigger was peacefully sleeping in the garage while my grandparents when to bring my uncle home from work. They left the garage door open like normal.

Then we heard a caterwauling... So I got up, and ran into the garage. I found that cali in the garge, eating Tigger's catfood. I chased him out of the garage and he looked pretty startled to find me in there with him.


I shut the garage door and called for Tigger. He poked his head out from under the steps, then went back under. Eventully I got him to come back out. I brought him into the house and luckily, he is unscathed besides a small nick on his ear that im guessing is from a claw.


Tigger is a neutered tom who has always been nice to toms and shecats alike, before and after he was neutered. My grandmother is slightly allergic to cats, so we can't have Tigger inside for to long, he sleep, eats, and drinks in the garage.

Any help in how to keep the stray away?? Were positive it's a stray. None of our neighbor's have cats, and most of them wouldn't dream of getting a cat.
Once he's decided that your place is part of his territory it's almost impossible to keep him away, especially if there is food and water available. You could try to catch him and have him neutered, this will make him less aggressive. You might have to trap him to do this, if you want any advice on where to borrow a trap from and how to trap him I'd be glad to give you some.

Other than that the only thing you could do is to make sure there is now food or water around to attract him, but if he knows Tigger is getting food there he'll probably keep coming back to see what he can find. There's a lot of truth in the saying "One cat leads to another."
 

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The thing is, he's only been around twice, (three times counting yesterday) But Princess and Tigger always chase him away, no need for claws or a fight, the calico just runs off.  Princess died a few days ago, but Tigger has chased the cali off on his own. Maybe just the fright of Tigger's territory being invaded giving him the spooks?

I'll poke around to see if I can get a trap, since this stray seems to be hungry, that might help a bit in trapping him. Once he's neutered, then HOPEFULLY things will smooth down. 

(until another of the many strays come around)  
 

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The bully cat is a calico? OK, he's not a boy then, she's a girl. Male calico cats are extremely rare. Female cats are quite territorial, particularly if they are pregnant or have kittens. I'd really advise you to try and befriend this cat so you can trap her and get her spayed. Even if she starts being friendly towards Tigger an unspayed female cat will attract lots of toms to your house and then poor Tigger will really be in trouble.

Are there any groups in your area that do TNR? If not, have you tried calling the Humane Society or Alley Cat Allies? Some vets have traps of their own that they will let you borrow too.

Why not start a thread in out Strays and Ferals forum? You'll get lots of input there on how to catch this girl and how to keep your outdoor cats safe.

http://www.thecatsite.com/f/9/caring-for-strays-and-ferals
 

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No, sadly there aren't any TNR people/volunteer's around where I live. I'll call the humane society today, they will probably be able to help. The calico has never tried to "attack" me or Tigger, she just scares Tigger when she tries to get food from the garage. Every time she see's a human (me, mom, grandpa, grandma, or our neighbors) she runs. I'm not sure if she will be wary of a trap aswell, Only time will tell. 
 

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She's already coming into your garage to look for food, so that's half the battle won. Stray and feral cats are always hungry, so it shouldn't be too difficult to trap her using a humane trap and then take her to be spayed. Do you think Tigger will get used to her eventually? She could take over as his friend and protector now that Princess has gone.
 

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True, One way to at least get her a bit confined would be just to shut the garage door then. Sept im not sure if we could catch her while being confined. She came into the garage again tonight, so she must be pretty hungry. If she got spade im pretty sure Tigger would warm up to her. They could be fixed mates. *hehe*

I'll check with the vet to see if we could get a humane trap for her, shouldn't be to terrible hard to catch her being she's hungry. I left a bit of cat food out near a place I see her a bunch, in the morning I can go and check if it's gone, Tigger is in the garage tonight so I know he won't get it. Hope she catch her soon, my grandparent's are frusterated with having a feral cat intruding in their garage.
 

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I wouldn't risk trapping her in the garage. Once she's in there it would be really difficult to get her to go into a trap, she'd probably just hide somewhere in the garage until she could make a break for it.

Don't  try to pick her up until you know how she'll react. Cats are armed and dangerous! I have some nasty scars from trying to pick up a feral kitten before he was ready. He was only 5 months old, but he knew how to inflict some damage.

Keep leaving food in the garage for her, then when you get a trap set it up in the same place you always leave the food. I'll give you some more detailed trapping advice when you've got a trap. Is your vet used to dealing with feral cats? Will he give you a TNR discount? (It's always worth asking for one)
 

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True about the garage, and the thing is, if she were to go under the house, we would never catch her then. And yup, cat's are definatly armed, I have scar's from two or three years ago trying to 'tame' feral kittens around my aunts farm. Were going to call the vet soon and I'll ask for a trap, and check if I could get a TNR discount, if the vet doesn't have traps, I'll check with the Humane Society of Baron County for one. Either/or I'm positive they would let me barrow a trap, since both want cat's to be spade/neutered.  
 

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I had a similar problem, I went online to heartland america and bought a nice medium size  trap cage, you put food inside in the back of trap cage, when he went in he sprung the trap, then I took  him to the shelter, very simple oomk
 

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Problem with indoor only cats you will get a full 16 years worth of cat hair covering your home. That is a lot of hair. It also depends on where the cat is located. Here in England cats don't tend to get shot as most people don't own a gun. Most people here are used to cats in the neighbourhood since a lot of people keep cats as pets and cats don't tend to roam too far. And in rural areas where my cat is being outside is not a problem though we do have a tomcat who has just recently for some reason began fighting our cat so we are keeping her in at night.
 

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having a similar problem, been given a new cat who has bonded with me very well, a very sharp and clever cat who's party trick is opening doors so trying to keep him in is almost impossible, so i let him out but he is being attacked by a neighboring cat, keeping him in 24/7 is like punishing him, from his behavior when I do, he seems to think so too i just wish there's a way to discourage this cat away without having to harm it or my cat
 

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having a similar problem, been given a new cat who has bonded with me very well, a very sharp and clever cat who's party trick is opening doors so trying to keep him in is almost impossible, so i let him out but he is being attacked by a neighboring cat, keeping him in 24/7 is like punishing him, from his behavior when I do, he seems to think so too i just wish there's a way to discourage this cat away without having to harm it or my cat
Are both the cats neutered? This usually keeps fights to a minimum, or at least means they aren't as severe.

Have you tried walking your cat on a harness and leash? He could still go outside that way without you having to worry about him.
 

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Hi. Thanks for all the stories.
I have a similar problem. I moved 4 days ago from a perfect house, garden and neighbourhood for my cats. They had a great happy life being able to be inside and also out in the garden and in the neighbourhood. The only other cat I saw became a good friend with my cat.
Now we moved to another place and one of my male cats "Bardo" got attacked by a huge other cat who chased him far away. We lost him for 2 days and then we found him scared and shocked on a roof after being called after spamming every single house in the neighbourhood with flyers with a reward.
I can't let Bardo go out anymore. I walk with him daily two times around the house, but it is only a sad alternative to his previous life.(my other cat is content to just be inside). Also he always liked the most to sleep all day and go out at night when We sleep.
My garden and the terrain around it is the territory of this feral cat which already attacked And chased away Bardo.
I am thinking about neutering and relocating him to the other side of the island 70km away. This is cruel right? It will potentially endanger the cat I imagine. Still I am contemplating it. Any thought about the relocation idea?
Also does collecting and distributing the litter with urine of Bardo in and around the garden help with pushing back the territory of the feral cat? Or is it useless and perhaps provokes the feral cat even more?
Good luck everyone with everyhing.
 

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Hi @tchoco

It actually might be much better for your cat to keep him indoors and only let him out on a leash. You're lucky that he will walk on a leash with you, some people spend ages training their cats to do that.

If he's out on his own he's at risk from cars, dogs, other animals, people, poison.....the list goes on and on. He'll be much safer with you there to watch over him.

No, please don't try to relocate this other cat. In order for relocations to work the cat needs to be confined for at least a month. If you move him and release him right away he'll try and find his way back home and probably get killed doing so. Getting him neutered will definitely make him less aggressive, but it can take time for all those male hormones to wear off so you won't see an overnight change in his behavior.

Putting your cats litter around your house and garden will advertise his presence to other cats in the neighborhood but it won't deter them. Really the safest thing to do is keep taking him for walks on a leash or maybe build him a cat enclosure in the garden.

Google cat enclosures and you'll see some nice ones.

 

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Hi @tchoco


It actually might be much better for your cat to keep him indoors and only let him out on a leash. You're lucky that he will walk on a leash with you, some people spend ages training their cats to do that.

If he's out on his own he's at risk from cars, dogs, other animals, people, poison.....the list goes on and on. He'll be much safer with you there to watch over him.

No, please don't try to relocate this other cat. In order for relocations to work the cat needs to be confined for at least a month. If you move him and release him right away he'll try and find his way back home and probably get killed doing so. Getting him neutered will definitely make him less aggressive, but it can take time for all those male hormones to wear off so you won't see an overnight change in his behavior.

Putting your cats litter around your house and garden will advertise his presence to other cats in the neighborhood but it won't deter them. Really the safest thing to do is keep taking him for walks on a leash or maybe build him a cat enclosure in the garden.

Google cat enclosures and you'll see some nice ones.

:)

yes!! Thanks Norachan! A great idea about the cat enclosures!! [emoji]128077[/emoji][emoji]128515[/emoji][emoji]128515[/emoji][emoji]128515[/emoji][emoji]128077[/emoji]Why didn't I think of that possibility! I see some very inspiring pictures on google. Alright i've got work to do. Going to start small by adding chickenwire to the roof over the patio in the back and expand by adding more modules every week. Alright thanks![emoji]128571[/emoji]
 
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