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I have posted a thread on changing dry food, adding more wet etc. also I want to add more variety to their diet. So far just other brands of chicken flavour as that was what they were on. To add variety as to other meat what should I try. Also I don't want to spend a fortune. Right now I have tried fancy feast chicken pâté, pc brand chicken dinner which I am limiting and probably won't purchase again as I didn't realize it had a big of gravy. Also they are still on the stuff from the vets the kitten one. They are just about one so transitioning to cat food. What is a good rotation of canned food, how many etc? I just give then a different brand each meal and rotate. But this means opening up multiply can or is this what you that do this do?
I am currently feeding 1/4 cup each dry for the day and I split a large can of cat food into four and they each get a quarter morning and night. From what another member advised me on this was good. Before they were having a cup of dry food a day and a quarter split between them morning and night.
Just hoping this doesn't end up being more money feeding more wet! Will have to keep a log.
Thanks any advice appreciate. Any brand cheap? But not horrible for them. Two almost one years old by the way.
 
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I feed my 16 year old cat the following brands of wet canned cat food now.

Soulistic

Nutro Natural Choice

Fancy Feast

In a pinch, he'll also eat Sheba wet canned cat food.

One week I'll give him Soulistic, the following week I'll give him Nutro Natural Choice and the third week I'll give him Fancy Feast. This keeps him from getting "burnout" from eating the same brand all the time.

My cat won't touch pate textured canned cat food even if it's in flavors he loves. He likes the following textures: minced, sliced, chunks, shreds although shreds is his fourth choice.

As a taste test the other day, I tried some Fancy Feast Grilled style on him in the following flavors:

Chicken Feast in Gravy

Chicken & Beef Feast in Gravy

Liver & Chicken Feast in Gravy

Tuna Feast in Gravy

He really likes these flavors. He weighs 9 1/2 pounds and he eats three, 3 ounce cans of Fancy Feast per day. Fancy Feast is the least expensive of the three brands he likes and it normally sells for $.59/can at Petsmart. It's a little cheaper when it's on sale with a Petsmart Pet Perks card.

So, eating three cans of Fancy Feast per day comes to ($1.77). This comes to a 7 day weekly total of ($12.39). This price doesn't include tax.

Fancy Feast is not bad for an inexpensive wet canned cat food. It does have wheat gluten and corn starch in it, but I think these two ingredients have something to do with the gravy. He eats "everything", leaves nothing and licks the bowl "clean". The link for Fancy Feast is below.

http://www.fancyfeast.com/gourmet-cat-products/wet-cat-food/grilled

Pick out a flavor and then click on the ingredients and you can see the ingredients and also the nutritional info in percentage too. I didn't put the link to the pate flavors because as I mentioned above, he won't touch pate.

I'm also going to try a few more flavors of the Fancy Feast Grilled style too (like Tender Beef & Liver Feast in Gravy, etc) and see if he likes those.
 

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I rotate my cats' wet food by going to the pet store, get some single cans of different brands/flavors, and trying on the cats to see their response. So far, I have been feeding them Wellness, Wellness CORE, and Merrick in different flavors like chicken, turkey, beef, and duck. Once they like the food, I order them in bulk, so I have 2-3 different options available at a time. I have in the past also tried Weruva, EVO, Natural Balance, and Halo. They were not crazy about EVO, but they are pretty good with different brands and flavors in general. I would like to keep it that way!

I think I will try out Pet Guard, Fromm, and a few other options the next time. I can definitely the brands I have tried so far...but I know different cats have different preferences. Good luck!
 
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HI and thanks!

Unfortunately I can't feed them the expensive brands. I have currently fed them the PC brand (Real Canadian Superstore) and Fancy feast ( which I may have to stop with that one as it's more expensive per can). They are on Nutro Natural choice chicken dry food for indoor cats. Well they are being transitioned to that type of dry food as they were on a vet kind which was much worse. The Nutro is expensive but  I am hoping to feed more wet it possible and less dry. We need to keep dry in their diet as we are not always home to feed them wet more than twice a day and if we go away we can't expect someone to come more than twice a day to feed them. 

I appreciate the help on the rotation. They have only ever had pate type canned food but I think this weekend I will try them on another texture and see what they think. I hate to have to feed them Friskies or PC brand etc of canned food but as I keep reading canned food is better than dry food and if I can get them to eat more canned then good. Currently they get a quarter (156grams can) I think it is. We have two cats so each get that morning and evening. I give them 1/4 of dry food each and sometimes before bed I will give another 1/4 of dry if their bowel is empty.

On a side note: is it okay  for them to eat kitten food a bit longer. I have several cans of kitten food and they just are or about to turn one. I could take them back but have continued to feed it to them as they seem to like it. Will not be buying any more of course. 

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On a side note: is it okay for them to eat kitten food a bit longer. I have several cans of kitten food and they just are or about to turn one. I could take them back but have continued to feed it to them as they seem to like it. Will not be buying any more of course.
That's fine. Kitten food is somwhat higher in calories, but it won't hurt them to eat it a bit past their first birthday.
 

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be sure to verify the calories of the foods you're feeding to ensure each cat is able to get an appropriate amount of food per day.  also, like NYCats said, you can always try to buy a couple of cans of higher quality cat foods and then order online in bulk.  or even ordering fancy feast online in bulk may save you some money.  i'm not familiar with PC brand, but i used to feed fancy feast, some of the flaked varieties i think.  i think offering a variety of flavors and proteins is important; if your cats will tolerate different textures, that's nice too.  mine really prefer flaked or pate.  

since your'e working on switching them over to more wet, less dry food (good idea, by the way) i'd recommend canned foods without grain in them - the cats will be getting some grain in their food.  and nutro does use pea and potato to inflate the protein.  i would want to focus on high quality protein sources with no added grains in the canned food.  my cats liked the fancy feast elegant medleys (i no longer feed them because of the wheat gluten).  you also may be able to get the small cans of iams cat foods for a comparable price, and some of the friskies varieties aren't horrible.

another thing to consider is the nutritional value.  higher quality foods are more expensive, but are more nutrient dense.  a cat requires less of higher quality foods to get the same nutritional value.  
 
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be sure to verify the calories of the foods you're feeding to ensure each cat is able to get an appropriate amount of food per day.  also, like NYCats said, you can always try to buy a couple of cans of higher quality cat foods and then order online in bulk.  or even ordering fancy feast online in bulk may save you some money.  i'm not familiar with PC brand, but i used to feed fancy feast, some of the flaked varieties i think.  i think offering a variety of flavors and proteins is important; if your cats will tolerate different textures, that's nice too.  mine really prefer flaked or pate.  

since your'e working on switching them over to more wet, less dry food (good idea, by the way) i'd recommend canned foods without grain in them - the cats will be getting some grain in their food.  and nutro does use pea and potato to inflate the protein.  i would want to focus on high quality protein sources with no added grains in the canned food.  my cats liked the fancy feast elegant medleys (i no longer feed them because of the wheat gluten).  you also may be able to get the small cans of iams cat foods for a comparable price, and some of the friskies varieties aren't horrible.

another thing to consider is the nutritional value.  higher quality foods are more expensive, but are more nutrient dense.  a cat requires less of higher quality foods to get the same nutritional value.  
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As of last week when I weighed them they are each 9 pounds. This may sound dumb but I looked on the fancy feast I don't see calories. I see a bunch of numbers so do I just add those up? Looked on a PC one too and don't see it. I think once I finish the PC brand I have I won't continue with it as it has a touch of gravy in it which I didn't know until opening. I am clueless really as to how much wet to feed each but they do seem to regulate how much they eat. Meaning stop when full. One usually comes back half hour later the other likes dry more. But they don't seem to over eat. but I do want to make sure they get enough and not over feed too!
I feel like a new mom, I have a four year old boy! I want to do right for our fur babies but their is a limit!
They usually don't finish their soft food in one time so I leave it out for a bit but I only notice one go back to eat more.
 
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I rotate my cats' wet food by going to the pet store, get some single cans of different brands/flavors, and trying on the cats to see their response. So far, I have been feeding them Wellness, Wellness CORE, and Merrick in different flavors like chicken, turkey, beef, and duck. Once they like the food, I order them in bulk, so I have 2-3 different options available at a time. I have in the past also tried Weruva, EVO, Natural Balance, and Halo. They were not crazy about EVO, but they are pretty good with different brands and flavors in general. I would like to keep it that way!

I think I will try out Pet Guard, Fromm, and a few other options the next time. I can definitely the brands I have tried so far...but I know different cats have different preferences. Good luck!
am in Canada so where can I get good deals online and I am curious if shipping costs become high? Thans
 
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Anyone find its just so stressful trying to get it just right for your fur babies. I got so stressed out at the beginning that was like great just tell me what to feed them and how much. My vet told me and I went with it. Of course ended up with much worse food choice than what they are eating now. My head has started spinning not knowing what is best, what I can afford, how much to feed and a hubby that is fine with feeding them grocery store food. I hope I do right for them and things can get more routine again. It's hard to know what to do!
 
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Hi there,

How are things going? The last time you and I conversed, I thought you were off to a great start in that you had found food that your kitties were enjoying. Is this still not the case? There is always a bit of trial and error when you are transitioning from one food to another. There is no such thing as perfect and at this stage its expected that it can take a bit of time to get things organized as you become familiar with new foods, ingredients, what's available in your area, etc. As long as they are eating well and doing good, this is what matters!

Regarding grains in canned food, the Fancy Feast pates are considered grain-free and some of the PC will contain a bit of wheat gluten, but as you are rotating foods, a little bit is okay. Its okay that the PC brand contains a bit of gravy, you just have to ensure that you stick to a controlled amount. If you would rather not feed food with gravy, there is the PC Turkey and Giblets or Chicken.

As for how much to feed, your cats need between 20-30 calories per pound depending on how active they are. So if your cats are 9 pounds and reasonably active, I would be looking to feed about 225 calories per cat, per day. By law, all canned cat food should feature the number of kCals (calories) that a canned food contains. kCals can range anywhere from 145 to 250 kCals per can.

If you can afford to purchase some premium brands for rotation, see if you can find either Wellness Core, Nature's Variety Instinct or Hound & Gatos. These come in either 3 ounce or 5.5 ounce cans. You will find some at PetSmart or Pet Valu here in Canada. 

Another brand that you may want to look for is AUTHORITY canned wet food. This is grain-free, by-product free and is reasonably priced for what it is. This is what you are looking for : http://www.authoritypetnutrition.com/cat-products/adult/canned-food.shtml, which is sold at PetSmart.

You are doing great, and everything will come together eventually.
 
 
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I'm not really familiar with what online retailers there are in Canada. Perhaps a member from Canada can help you out there? I tend to order the biggest size can available as well, and that does help keep cost lower, as opposed to buying small cans.
 

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the authority brand mentioned is a better food than many products out there but it is definitely not grain-free if that is one of your goals. it has brewers rice which is the by-product (aka what is leftover) of the rice milling process.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewers_rice  even with the brewers rice it is not too high in carb so it has that going for it! but all flavors contain fish of some type, and i do wonder what the animal is in "animal liver".

i'm also trying to decide what to be feeding my cat and have been reading a lot of labels and product websites. in my case i want to go 100% grain-free. i should be thankful that we have so many choices these days but it is a lot to sort through.
 
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Hi there,

How are things going? The last time you and I conversed, I thought you were off to a great start in that you had found food that your kitties were enjoying. Is this still not the case? There is always a bit of trial and error when you are transitioning from one food to another. There is no such thing as perfect and at this stage its expected that it can take a bit of time to get things organized as you become familiar with new foods, ingredients, what's available in your area, etc. As long as they are eating well and doing good, this is what matters!

Regarding grains in canned food, the Fancy Feast pates are considered grain-free and some of the PC will contain a bit of wheat gluten, but as you are rotating foods, a little bit is okay. Its okay that the PC brand contains a bit of gravy, you just have to ensure that you stick to a controlled amount. If you would rather not feed food with gravy, there is the PC Turkey and Giblets or Chicken.

As for how much to feed, your cats need between 20-30 calories per pound depending on how active they are. So if your cats are 9 pounds and reasonably active, I would be looking to feed about 225 calories per cat, per day. By law, all canned cat food should feature the number of kCals (calories) that a canned food contains. kCals can range anywhere from 145 to 250 kCals per can.

If you can afford to purchase some premium brands for rotation, see if you can find either Wellness Core, Nature's Variety Instinct or Hound & Gatos. These come in either 3 ounce or 5.5 ounce cans. You will find some at PetSmart or Pet Valu here in Canada. 

Another brand that you may want to look for is AUTHORITY canned wet food. This is grain-free, by-product free and is reasonably priced for what it is. This is what you are looking for : http://www.authoritypetnutrition.com/cat-products/adult/canned-food.shtml, which is sold at PetSmart.

You are doing great, and everything will come together eventually. :)  
Hi there,

How are things going? The last time you and I conversed, I thought you were off to a great start in that you had found food that your kitties were enjoying. Is this still not the case? There is always a bit of trial and error when you are transitioning from one food to another. There is no such thing as perfect and at this stage its expected that it can take a bit of time to get things organized as you become familiar with new foods, ingredients, what's available in your area, etc. As long as they are eating well and doing good, this is what matters!

Regarding grains in canned food, the Fancy Feast pates are considered grain-free and some of the PC will contain a bit of wheat gluten, but as you are rotating foods, a little bit is okay. Its okay that the PC brand contains a bit of gravy, you just have to ensure that you stick to a controlled amount. If you would rather not feed food with gravy, there is the PC Turkey and Giblets or Chicken.

As for how much to feed, your cats need between 20-30 calories per pound depending on how active they are. So if your cats are 9 pounds and reasonably active, I would be looking to feed about 225 calories per cat, per day. By law, all canned cat food should feature the number of kCals (calories) that a canned food contains. kCals can range anywhere from 145 to 250 kCals per can.

If you can afford to purchase some premium brands for rotation, see if you can find either Wellness Core, Nature's Variety Instinct or Hound & Gatos. These come in either 3 ounce or 5.5 ounce cans. You will find some at PetSmart or Pet Valu here in Canada. 

Another brand that you may want to look for is AUTHORITY canned wet food. This is grain-free, by-product free and is reasonably priced for what it is. This is what you are looking for : http://www.authoritypetnutrition.com/cat-products/adult/canned-food.shtml, which is sold at PetSmart.

You are doing great,
Hi there,

How are things going? The last time you and I conversed, I thought you were off to a great start in that you had found food that your kitties were enjoying. Is this still not the case? There is always a bit of trial and error when you are transitioning from one food to another. There is no such thing as perfect and at this stage its expected that it can take a bit of time to get things organized as you become familiar with new foods, ingredients, what's available in your area, etc. As long as they are eating well and doing good, this is what matters!

Regarding grains in canned food, the Fancy Feast pates are considered grain-free and some of the PC will contain a bit of wheat gluten, but as you are rotating foods, a little bit is okay. Its okay that the PC brand contains a bit of gravy, you just have to ensure that you stick to a controlled amount. If you would rather not feed food with gravy, there is the PC Turkey and Giblets or Chicken.

As for how much to feed, your cats need between 20-30 calories per pound depending on how active they are. So if your cats are 9 pounds and reasonably active, I would be looking to feed about 225 calories per cat, per day. By law, all canned cat food should feature the number of kCals (calories) that a canned food contains. kCals can range anywhere from 145 to 250 kCals per can.

If you can afford to purchase some premium brands for rotation, see if you can find either Wellness Core, Nature's Variety Instinct or Hound & Gatos. These come in either 3 ounce or 5.5 ounce cans. You will find some at PetSmart or Pet Valu here in Canada. 

Another brand that you may want to look for is AUTHORITY canned wet food. This is grain-free, by-product free and is reasonably priced for what it is. This is what you are looking for : http://www.authoritypetnutrition.com/cat-products/adult/canned-food.shtml, which is sold at PetSmart.

You are doing great, and everything will come together eventually. :)  
Thank you
I get stressed sometimes with change but i am doing my best to feed them right. For the most part they are enjoying the wet food. One however eats a bit morning and night but sometimes not all their portion. She still seems to go to the hard food after. Where as the other one will eat some of her portion and then go back a while later for more and only eats a little hard food. I don't know if I will fully get to change to soft food and I am okay with that because it's not always possible for me to be here to feed wet and I wouldn't want them to be hungry. I am doing as you said cutting the can into four meals ( the (156g cans) and they each get a quarter in the morning and then again at night. I think in one sitting this is too much for them . The one that doesn't like it as much I might give a bit less as she eats more hard food. It's trial and error. I will have to work out pricing and stuff as to what brands I end up sticking with. I don't want to try something with them that I don't plan on sticking with. I found a site on the internet that tells me calories in cat food even the brand name and texture and flavour is listed. Not all brands are there but a number of them so it gives me a bit more to work with cause I am lost on that front as to how many calories to feed each. But as I am sure back somewhere in this post someone has told me. I forget sometimes what I read and will have to go back at sometime and read. I appreciate you keeping in contact with me. I know this is a different thread and for you to come over to it and ask how I am doing with my cats is great! I am sure I will have more to write and ask about but got ti get going for now.
Thanks to everyone else here that is helping me out all answers are very much appreciate and welcomed!
I am sure if my cats could talk they would say thank you for caring!
On a side note did I read right that one of the authority brand I looked at online is over 1000 calories? If this is true then it's nothing like what was stayed most canned food is calorie wise.
 
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@newkittyowner: That sounds really positive! .. You know your cats best and as long as they are getting some wet canned with the dry, I think you are doing very well.

The 1000 kCals you are seeing represents kilograms. So its 1000 kCals per kilogram of food. If you take the 1000 kCals and convert this to ounces you get roughly 35 ounces. If you then divide the 35 ounces by 6 ounces which is the size of the largest Authority can, you get roughly 5.8 cans per kilogram. If you further divide 1000 kCals by 5.8, you get roughly 172 calories per can.

@Monkies: Re. Authority, yes, you are right it does contain Brewers Rice, but other than this it is virtually grain-free. There is one variety that doesn't contain fish according to the website, and that is the Lamb.
 
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So I thought I knew them but with trying new stuff even the non picky one is deciding to be picky and the picky one eating and vise versa! They like it one time may be two then decide they don't. This is going to make it tough to know what to buy! I am going out later and will look for some other brands. This means I have no option but to feed dry good as well especially if one decides they won't eat the canned stuff then I have to have the dry for them. They seem to be okay with the switch over of dry thank goodness. It's hard as they are picking and choosing to like something then not.
I have only done chicken flavor, oh I did one PC turkey and that only okay with One for a few mouthfuls then went to the other plate and ate chicken. Should I stick with chicken or branch out to may be beef or is that too sudden?
 
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So I went to Pet Smart today it's about 20 minutes from me. and I looked and looked at different brands and decided on wellness chicken, turkey beef . I was pleased to find out that even if I open a can and they they try it and don't like it I can bring it back for my money back!! That is good news! Anyways I decided to cut a fourth of the can into two  for our two kittens and my not so picky eater at a fourth of it at 5:30pm and left the other fourth and it's still on the plate at 8:50pm. My picky eater didn't even touch it and wouldn't eat the same thing she ate this morning. So I just don't get it! How am I to know what to buy? My picky eater is okay with the new dry food but I think she liked the kitten one she was on but it was much worse for ingredients than what i switched to. They are all over the place in what they each at each meal it's frustrating me. I thought I had it figured out then but they keep changing on me. They do eventually eat all the dry food but more so the picky eater. They don't go through it like they use to. If my not so picky eater decides on a wet food to stick with then that is what I will buy and hope the other will. I can't keep buying more and more. Any ideas on a brand or flavour that is one that most if not all cats will eat? Might not be as healthy as grain free or what not but as I read wet is better than dry for them and I feel bad she is just nibbling on dry to fill her but I can't make her eat wet!! 
 
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Sounds like your kitty might need a bit more of a gradual switch? If kitty eats one brand of food for sure, try mixing the new one gradually, like one spoonful at a time, into the regular brand. You can also try different textures of food to see if they like pate, shredded, lots of gravy, etc. Some cats seem to have preferences. And I know some cats are kibble addicts. It will probably take a lot of patience to convert them over to wet food. Maybe you can schedule feed the dry and mix a bit of wet food to see if they eat the mix. If they do, you can very slowly increase the wet food. Just throwing ideas! In terms of brands most cats eat, one that comes to mind is the Fancy Feast hahaha.
 
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Sounds like your kitty might need a bit more of a gradual switch? If kitty eats one brand of food for sure, try mixing the new one gradually, like one spoonful at a time, into the regular brand. You can also try different textures of food to see if they like pate, shredded, lots of gravy, etc. Some cats seem to have preferences. And I know some cats are kibble addicts. It will probably take a lot of patience to convert them over to wet food. Maybe you can schedule feed the dry and mix a bit of wet food to see if they eat the mix. If they do, you can very slowly increase the wet food. Just throwing ideas! In terms of brands most cats eat, one that comes to mind is the Fancy Feast hahaha.
Hi and thanks for your suggestions. For a long time they had no problem eating 1/4th a can of wet between them twice a day. Then one became picky and would only sometimes eat the wet. Then I thought it was a temperature of the food thing and would warm if for one and not the other as one was liking warm and the other not. This I thought fixed the problem. After a few days or so one went back to being picky . So I was just putting it down and hoping but the unpicky one just eventually ate both.

Now they are one years old I have started switching to cat food and have tried fancy feast pâté, PC ( real Canadian superstore brand) and now wellness. Wellness is the only one that the one my picky eater has not eaten so far at any point. I did however only buy it today. I only put a little out as it was new.
As I said before they have always eaten some wet since I got them but it was one from the vets. They were just on dry before I got them.
Anyways I will keep trying and I might get a fancy feast to try again for my picky one. One thing I find is if I use separate plates one will sometimes eat a bit from both.
Thanks!
I am wondering if the picky one if I keep putting the wet down would start to eat it? I also wonder if a different texture might interest her? Trial and error I guess! Wishing I could feed a wet portion at lunch but I am not always available to do this.
 
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Was just about to turn the lights out when I got to thinking how I have noticed the dry food not disappearing as fast as it use to. I switch gradually over 7 days to the new stuff. They were on a vet brand for kittens but just turned one. i decided i wanted better quality for my money. I worry more because I have two cats and can't always see who eats it and how much. Before I came to bed I noticed one take a dry food kibble eat it and walk away. I just hope the more picky one with wet food is at least eating something. Yes I want to switch to more wet but she can't starve in the process or flat out not each which I can't always tell. Any signs I should look out for? They do eat the dry or at least one does as it does go. Perhaps they don't like it as much as the vet stuff they were on? If I am home during the day they don't beg or meow for food and they sleep as cats do but can be very active too!
 
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Do you feed the dry food on schedule? If you don't, I recommend that you do, so you can watch out for how much they are eating.

My babies are 18 months old, and I used to free feed grain-free dry as well as wet kitten food twice daily. When they turned a year old, I transitioned to two meals of wet only. They were pickier when it came to wet food, as kittens, but they now eat pretty much most of the wet food I give them. They are always hungry and gobble up everything I give them and want more lol!

The boy is a bit picky when it comes to treats, but that's not that difficult to deal with. When I switched them over to adult cat food, I tried out quite a few brands and flavors to see what they preferred.

I think it's important for your kitty to first get used to eating mostly wet food while making sure they are eating enough of the dry, so that they would not be starving themselves if they don't like the wet you give them. Have you tried out different kinda of dry food? I've only fed my Taste of the Wild, and luckily, they loved it from the start. Some pet stores give out samples.

I know some cats are just picky and stubborn about what they eat. I think it's trial and error like you said. It will probably take you a while to figure out the best combination.

One trick I have used before when mine were being picky was to sprinkle some fish flakes as topping to make the food smellier and more appetizing. Some people have done that with fortiflora and Parmesan cheese. Maybe you can experiment with some topping options :) the bonito flakes work on my cats like a charm every time.
 
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